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Speaking of people stealing stuff off the internet….. This photo was taken by me in May, 2008. I posted it here. These three bucks belong to Pete and Missy, who are friends of mine. We got our goats from them. I published the photo in my 2009 Chickens in the Road calendar, and also shared the photo with Pete and Missy. They published it with my permission on their website here, crediting the photo to me.
This photo now appears in the November issue of Dairy Goat Journal. It was published in the print edition of their magazine (on page 13) as well as on their website. You can see the photo on their website here in the online edition of the magazine. (They may take it down soon because they WILL be hearing from me–the photo on this post is a screen capture, so there is no running and hiding. Not to mention, it was also published in the print edition, which has been distributed.)
As you can see, they reference the photo only as “Prescott’s bucks”–which leads me to believe they lifted the photo from Pete and Missy’s site rather than directly from mine. Look again at Pete and Missy’s site and you will see there is no excuse for the lack of photo credit as Pete and Missy have the photo clearly credited to me. See here. If they wanted to use my photo, the proper thing to do would have been to contact Pete and Missy about the photo and ask them how to get in touch with me. Pete and Missy have their contact info right next to the photo, so that would have been easy to do.
Of course, credit isn’t the only issue. They owe me a fee for use of my work. I think it might be a fairly expensive photo!!!
FYI, Pete and Missy were not interviewed or contacted for the article, though the reference to “Prescott’s bucks” indicates it was taken from their site. They subscribe to Dairy Goat Journal and notified me when they saw the photo.
P.S. Here is the contact page for Dairy Goat Journal if you would like to let them know what you think about internet theft. You can find all their email addresses and phone numbers here:
http://www.dairygoatjournal.com/contactus.html
The editorial email address is: csyeditorial@tds.net
P.P.S. I’ve tracked down the original article here where it does NOT include my photo. My photo appears to have been added to the article by Dairy Goat Journal.
UPDATE: SEE THE RESOLUTION HERE.
Posted by Suzanne McMinn on November 9, 2010
This recipe is very close to the one I use for my biscuits. The first time I made biscuits for my new family, my youngest step-son asked "what are those?" Starting then I was on a mission to make the best biscuits I possibly could and I think I have finally done that. I bake biscuits at least 3 times a week for us and sometimes more on the week end for an early morning breakfast for neighbors, I love baking biscuits.
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That is so wrong.
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These people owe a great big, humongous apology along with the money due to you!!!!!
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Also according to the Breeders Directory and Links – the Prescotts do not advertise in their magazine (search for WV and West Virginia showed no results). Like you said – easy enough to contact them.
Have to wonder if all the other photos in their magazine are similarly collected.
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Andy, btw, I have been a huge fan of yours for a very long time! I do believe you have every right to be upset and charge anything your heart desires<3
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A member of my church once stole a whole slide show presentation I had put together- unethical and stupid- I had pictures of some of my family members in the line up. Umm- that is my niece in the picture you are claiming as your own?!
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http://www.blogher.com/honestly-cooks-source-you-cant-do
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I’m sorry you have to spend your valuable time dealing with crooks and thieves Suzanne.
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What ever happend to “Could I or Would you mind?”
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I hope that you get back at them, and get some money from them. Or take them to court if you must. Seems some times that people want things for free. They just take and never ask.
Do what you need to do.
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ellie
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http://photographersindex.com/stockprice.htm
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Do what you have to do, Suzanne! I am going to email them as well. That is low down and dirty! And LAZY to boot! I am just beside myself!
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Really ticks me off!
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You could take it as a compliment…or a blessing in disguise. Best of luck in your persuit & keep us posted, we care!
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And I live in the community where Mary Jane’s Farm is located and she is doing VERY well, so don’t use her as an example, please.
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My daughter is graduating with a BA in photography next month and this is a sore subject with me. One of her images was stolen and used for advertisement before she started using a watermark. She has the positive attitude to consider it a compliment to her work. I however, pay her tuition, and it ticks me off. I worry about whether she will be able to support herself in the future, especially with the prevailing attitudes of it being OK if the thief is poor. What about the poor photographer?
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This really s*cks. I would be seething mad. Good luck with getting some justice. I have to admit I agree with at least one of Chis’s points though. Even if you pursued suing the magazine, they might not have much money to pay you with (at least in terms of punitive damages). They certainly should have enough to pay a nice fee though. And I’d definitely be pursuing that if I were in your shoes.
I do hope that this doesn’t cloud your days too much or cost you too much sleep. It’d be sad if it significantly impacted your piece of mind. You can only do what you can do. If you know what I mean.
Best of luck to you. I’m rooting for you.
~Cindy
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For what it is worth, no one one has suggested torching anything, and that comment is simply over the top. While everyone around here is free to express themselves, misrepresenting what others say is not necessary or even advisable.
And that seems to be the basic problem – it’s never OK to claim what is not true and it’s not OK to steal the work or property of another. Period.
And when you get caught doing it, time to just own up to it, appologize, take your punishment and get on with life. As this company should do ASAP.
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Someone commented that people nowadays seem to live by the rule “it’s better to ask for forgiveness than permission”. I grew up with the “it’s better to ask for permission than suffer the consequences”. The other statement Chris made that I take offense to is “We don’t know who picks the artwork there. It could be the editor or it could be just the designer they are using that week.” Ultimately, the publication is responsible for the people they hire. No excuses. This whole brouhaha could have been avoided by asking Suzanne’s permission from the get go.
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This is called THEFT! Even if the parent company didn’t know, it’s their responsibility to insure that they know what is going on, and that they have a process in place so their employees don’t go around grabbing other people’s property off the net. They failed to do this! Irresponsible at the least, illegal at the most.
As others have said, just because it’s a small company, doesn’t make it any more right that they tolerate and allow their employees to take such liberties. I’d say it’s either a wink and a nod sort of attitude, “I don’t know and I don’t want to know, just don’t get caught!” Or else the staff and editors incompetent and no one reviews articles to be sure these things don’t happen.
Lets say it does happen, that’s when a responsible editor says, “This was an oversight on our part and we’ll make it right.” That’s when you make sure you say “mea culpa” make a simple apology. You don’t deny and lie about it which is what it sounds like is happening now.
I don’t have much money either, where do you leave your car keys? If you leave them on the table next to your purse in a public restaurant, does that mean it’s ok for me to pick them up and use them? That’s a harsh example, but somewhat fitting IMO.
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What most people don’t realize is Google may cache a copy of the photos for Google Images.(I googled “dairy goat bucks” and this image came up on page 16, but did not link back to CTR).
Most people are treating Google Images” like they are copywrite free “stock” photos. I’m sure that’s what happened here.
Without a watermark, that photo was like a puppy without a collar and tags, is the best way I can explain it.
Whether it’s an article on dairy goats or a kid’s homework assignment that needs a photo, people use Google Images.
The answer is to watermark every photo before you post it.
Adding tags and titles to the photos would help you in the search engines as well.
Hope this makes you feel better.
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