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5:15 pm January 16, 2010
| Rose H
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Here is a regional recipe for Staffordshire Oatcakes. They are a type of pancake that can be used as a savory pancake at breakfast with bacon and eggs, as a snack grilled (broiled?), with ham and melted cheese, or as a sweet with jam or maple syrup.
I'm hoping that you use scales in the USA, as I have no idea how to convert to cups (yet).
Staffordshire Oatcakes
8oz fine oatmeal 8oz plain flour 1teaspoon salt 1 small pack dried yeast 1 and a 1/2 pints of warm milk and water mixed 1teaspoon sugar
Mix all dry ingredients and stir together. Add liquid to make a batter. Cover with a cloth and leave for approx 1 hour in a warm place. Cook on a well greased bake stone, griddle or thick based frying pan, turning over each oatcake after 2-3 minutes or when the top of the oatcake seems dry and the bottom is golden brown, cook the other side for 2-3 minutes.
Makes approx 12 six to eight inch diameter oatcakes
Freeze very well. Hope you try and enjoy them
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5:46 pm January 16, 2010
| BuckeyeGirl
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OH! Thank you Rose! These sound wonderful to me. I'm going to try to work these out, many here do use scales. Or at least 'can' use them. With the access to recipes on the internet, I think more and more people are getting them for just this sort of thing! There is also a site with conversions that escapes me at the moment, but I'm going to work on figuring this out.
I suspect what you call oatmeal and what we call it are two different things though. Here in the 'colonies' (as Chris calls us! ) oatmeal means rolled oats which are cooked up as in porridge.
In this recipe, is it more of a flour? I bet a whir in a food processor or blender would break it up enough for this recipe though. I may try that unless I hear different from you.
Chris has spent time here so perhaps he can compare the two for us?
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5:48 pm January 16, 2010
| CindyP
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These look good, Rose….thank you for sharing!!
I started a conversion link topic http://suzannemcminn.com/forum…..ion-links/ if you need any help in converting any of the U.S. recipes!
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“Learn all you can from the mistakes of others. You won’t have time to make them all yourself.” ― Alfred Sheinwold
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6:00 pm January 16, 2010
| Rose H
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BuckeyeGirl said:
I suspect what you call oatmeal and what we call it are two different things though. Here in the 'colonies' (as Chris calls us! ) oatmeal means rolled oats which are cooked up as in porridge.
In this recipe, is it more of a flour? I bet a whir in a food processor or blender would break it up enough for this recipe though. I may try that unless I hear different from you.
Chris has spent time here so perhaps he can compare the two for us?
Our oatmeal is courser than rolled oats (which we use for porridge too), more of a very grainy flour. I haven't tryed it with whizzed up rolled oats, so I'll have to make a batch and let you know.
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6:06 pm January 16, 2010
| Rose H
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Thank you for the link Cindy. I have bookmarked it
I do have a set of 'cups' in the kitchen which I find useful when an American recipe takes my fancy…(got them from a charity (thrift) shop)
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6:26 pm January 16, 2010
| Pete
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You can sometimes find different grinds of oatmeal in stores around here. I'd use the cut oats rather than rolled oats to make these, but grind them a bit finer than what we'd use for hot cereal.
Am thinking these would actually be good using multi-grain as well as straight oats.
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10:22 pm January 16, 2010
| Suzanne McMinn
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Pete, tell me where you find different cuts of oats around here!
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11:30 pm January 16, 2010
| Pete
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At one time the Foodland on Smith St had quite a variety, particularly the Arrowhead Mills brand, and another one I can picture but cannot call by name. Since I've been grinding my own grains, I haven't kept up with whether they continue to stock it. The Amish Farms bulk store may as well. I will check with them next time I go in, and also at the Healthy Life Market.
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7:45 am January 17, 2010
| CindyP
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I don't know if they've always carried them, or I've just started noticing (because of all the talk around here about so many different things), but even our little grocery stores are stocking different types of oats, many flours, etc. I found cut oats the other day!
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11:16 am January 17, 2010
| BuckeyeGirl
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OK, the 1 1/2 pints of warm water mixed… is that half and half of each to equal 1 1/2 pints? …1 1/2 of each sounds like quite a lot of liquid. Plus, a UK pint (Imperial pint?) is 20 US ounces if I remember my pub measurements! So that makes it even MORE liquid! Or is it the same measurement. A pint of beer could be a traditional, not really used anymore measurement?
Also, do you know what the weight of a small packet of yeast is there? The yeast, I can guesstimate pretty well really based on the amount of flour… but the liquid could get touchy.
Sorry for all the questions, but this is what we deal with getting inter-continental/inter-national recipes figured out!
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If tomatoes are a fruit, then isn’t ketchup technically a
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11:45 am January 17, 2010
| ChrisUK
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Pending confirmation from Rose.Yeast is usually 7 gramme sachets. I would imagine the liquid is half & half,water to milk. I love your reasoning Debs, only imaginitive thought could work beer and pubs into the equation A girl after my own heart.
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1:42 pm January 17, 2010
| BuckeyeGirl
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OK,sounds good, but this IS going to be 30 US ozs of liquid then right?
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If tomatoes are a fruit, then isn’t ketchup technically a
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5:00 pm January 18, 2010
| Rose H
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Sorry if I'm causing confusion
I do use half milk and half water, but you could put more milk. It is 30 UK fl ozs. And yes the packs of dry yeast are 7 grammes., but you can use 1/2oz of fresh yeast if you can get it. (Not too easy to get now in the UK)
Our plain flour is the same as all purpose.
Hope that will make it clearer.
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5:20 pm January 18, 2010
| BuckeyeGirl
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I was just coming here to view instructions again, I'm making these now! Our packages of yeast are also 7 grams, and I am using a mixed whole grain cereal instead of oat flour, and I weighed and then measured it all out, the combined total of the flour and ground cereal is 6 1/2 cups, US dry measure. So, 3 1/4 c of each, though I think I will continue to weigh things for this recipe.
I am using Hodgson Mill Multi-Grain hot cerial, instead of oat flour. It's something I have on hand to add to my breads and many other recipes to boost the whole grain content and the texture just seemed exactly right for this, I have no idea why I think that, I have no idea exactly how it's supposed to be!
I'll post about how things turn out because it's always good to hear about that!
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If tomatoes are a fruit, then isn’t ketchup technically a
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6:17 pm January 18, 2010
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So, if I use whole rolled oats, can I just put them in a coffee grinder or food processor and dry mill them into flour? I'm just a stupid lass that was never taught to bake.
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6:23 pm January 18, 2010
| BuckeyeGirl
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That's what I was originally going to do, and what I'll try next CityG! I'd go for it! This does look like a LOT of batter. I'm trusting what Rose says about freezing them to toast up for another meal!
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If tomatoes are a fruit, then isn’t ketchup technically a
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6:47 pm January 18, 2010
| Rose H
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The mixture makes about 12 pankaces. If you freeze them put a sheet of greaseproof paper or clingwrap between them and just peel off as needed. To de-frost just pop them back in a frying pan or griddle for a few minutes.
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8:09 pm January 18, 2010
| Pete
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We obviously need some clarification here! Oat meal is not the same thing as oat flour, is it? Sort of like there is corn meal and there is corn flour. And different degrees of fineness of the meals. Think polenta vs all the other types of things one can do with the different grinds of the corn meal.
Same with oat meal, right?? Am guessing that a fine meal would be coarser than flour. Rose! Help!! 
Also guessing, but wouldn't ground rolled oats produce a somewhat gummy dough? Although, Mom used to make extra oatmeal (the cooked cereal) made from rolled oats, put the extra into the refrig, and make cakes to fry the next day for breakfast or a light supper. They were sort of like fried mush, served with syrup.
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8:35 pm January 18, 2010
| Rose H
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Okay Pete, I hope this link will work!
http://i191.photobucket.com/al…..ats020.jpg
I've just took a photo of UK's fine oatmeal and porridge oats. I hope it is clear enough.
(If it's no good blame me as it's 1.35am in the UK!)
Insomniac Rose signing off
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8:37 pm January 18, 2010
| Rose H
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Oops! Left: Oatmeal and right porridge oats.
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