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Jibber Jabber
September 6, 2011
9:53 pm
Cassie
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They are most likely boxer/pittie or lab/pittie (there may be two dads). They were dumped at a shelter at 4 weeks old. We got them at 9 weeks. Two are probably going to their new homes tomorrow. We work with a wonderful rescue group here in WA. They help animals that other groups won't (senior dogs/dogs with health issues/pitties). These pups were going to be euthanized if they didn't find a foster family for them. The county they were dumped in has breed specific legislation no and they had to be pulled by a rescue group.

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September 7, 2011
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rileysmom
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You are doing a good thing Cassie.  It's hard to condemn a little puppy…

When we were shopping for house insurance, there were insurance companies that would not cover us if we had a certain kinds of dogs…..

September 8, 2011
2:22 pm
Cassie
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There are a lot of insurance companies that have breed restrictions. There are some that don't. It's sad. We don't have our own pit bull, but the pits/staffies we've fostered have been wonderful dogs.

I'm so sad to see all of the stereotyping that goes on. Often when I hear about a "pit bull" attack, I find out that it wasn't a pit bull at all. But I only find that out because I follow the story-there's never a big news release saying they were wrong and the damage is done the minute the first story goes out. And 9 out of 10 people who say pit bulls are bad, have never had any kind of negative encounter with one. So sad.

 

Now I'm going to insert the image of a cow because I think it is cute.  sleepy-cow

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September 8, 2011
2:58 pm
mermonster
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I have never had a negative experience with a pitt bull. They have all been super friendly.  Now boxers are a different story.

September 8, 2011
3:15 pm
mowdrops
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My son had a pitbull for 13 years. She was the biggest softee you could find.Both my grandsons played with her and i never saw her being nasty in her whole life,in fact she was scared of my little kitten who used to chase her, and she ran away.happy-flower

September 8, 2011
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I've known several people who have been bitten by dogs, only one by a pit bull.  It's true, any dog can and may bite and plenty who are as sweet as can be, but I think that some dog bites get reported more because of the severity of the bite and the need to go to the hospital…  I'm pretty sure that hospitals are required to report severe or maybe ANY bites.  German Shepherds had/have a reputation for biting, in part because they are large enough to exert quite a bit of strength and do damage that requires attention.

Little dogs can be quite snappy and probably bite more frequently than larger breeds but because of the level of damage, and possibly the fear factor, (or lack of it) small dog bites probably get reported less often.

A big difference is the amount of force certain breeds can exert with their jaw strength, and when German Shepherds were one of the most popular breeds in the country, there were many more biting incidents with them. They have some heavy duty bite strength or the Police wouldn't use them as working dogs!  Pits have an even larger potential for damage due to the history of what they were originally bred for. My Australian Shepherd will try to herd children for goodness sake, because that's what he was bred to do, (well, not to herd children, but sheep are sort of like 4 legged fuzzy children right?) and he'll try to herd ANYTHING, including yes… children.

Please don't get me wrong, I don't think Pits are evil, but when one does slip up, they can do some serious damage, and this is one of the reasons for the injury and yes even the fatality rate associated with the breed, especially when it comes to kids.  a Chihuahua snaps at a child's cheek because someone lets their kid get too close to the dog's face, it takes a band-aid, a German shepherd, a Rottweiler, a Doberman or a Pittie bites a child's face, it's a different story and there's a lot of poorly bred and raised Pits out there just now.  I hope the back yard breeders lose some of their popularity because a good breeder that selects for temperament as well as color, type and conformation is a huge factor.  That's something that lots of back yard breeders don't consider, not to mention the back yard breeders that select for nasty temperament for the "fight clubs" out there.

I don't want to start any conflict about it, and I agree there are lots of sweet tempered pitties out there, but the exceptions can be a big problem.

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September 8, 2011
7:55 pm
rileysmom
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We used to take our dog to obedience classes (when we lived near cilvilization!) and saw all breeds of dogs.  The trainer raised some Dobermans that were the sweetest dogs I ever saw.  We also saw a Dalmation bite a fellow student.  There was a Saint Bernard that was a vicious creature….  I'd guess there must be something in the dog's background, whether heritage or surroundings. 

September 9, 2011
10:12 am
Cassie
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I agree that more damage can be done by bigger dogs. There are sweet dogs and mean dogs of all breeds. There is a difference in condemning backyard breeders and those that raise and train dogs for fighting and condemning the breed completely. There are many responsible pittie owners that have to put their dogs to sleep when a breed ban is imposed on a jurisdiction.

 

I actually don't support the breeding of dogs by reputable breeders either-not when so many dogs die every day because their aren't enough homes for them all. One thing you'll hear over and over in rescue is that every time a dog is purchased from a breeder, a shelter dog dies. It's true and it's sad. I know a lot of very good people like to buy dogs from breeders and a lot of very good people breed dogs. I have to agree to disagree with that. :) This subject can get very heated. I had a friend who thought that we would not be able to be friends because she bought a dog. That's not true. We just had to come to terms with the fact that we would not change each other's minds.

turtle The turtle is here because it's cute.

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September 9, 2011
10:50 am
Cassie
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Also, American bulldogs and Staffordshire Terriers (pitties) were't originally bred to fight-that's something that was done to them later. They were originally the American "Nanny" dog. Here's some information on the breed that can help dispel myths. http://thetruthaboutpitbulls.org/. Among other things, it says, "Given the difficulty of visual breed identification and the fact there are more than 200 breeds, it’s easy for authorities to make mistakes. “Breed specific legislation (BSL) can definitely impact people that have dogs that are not those on a specific breed legislation list because somebody may think that their dog looks like one of those dogs,” Dr. Voith explains.
In fact, there are many documented cases of this happening, with owners forced to sue cities, counties and states, claiming their dogs were wrongly seized under these breed bans."

 

smiley-puppyI love these little icon thingies.

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September 9, 2011
12:14 pm
MMT
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I was one of those people that even though I had no experience with pitties, I decided they were vicious and just a bad breed.  Then my son adopted a pitty (Lenox) and a boxer (Loki) from a local shelter.  The first time my son brought Lenox to my home I made it perfectly clear that I did not like or trust the dog.  As the dogs spent more and more time at my home I got to know them and realized that like any other animal all they really want is to be loved and will give you unconditional love in return.  My son has moved and could not take Lenox and Loki with him at this time so they are now living with us and I have to say I am glad to have them here.  smiley-puppy These are my grandpuppies and I just love 'em.  Lenox is a runt and has a gimpy back leg ( a result of bad breeding I'm sure) but he is such a sweetheart.  Loki is a bit of a nut but is also just as sweet as can be.  I agree that there is no need for all this breeding that is going on (in many different animal breeds) when there are so many great animals out there that need good homes.  My niece has an organization that is trying to motivate people to spay and neuter their pets. http://www.fixit-foundation.org  Interested people please give it a look. 

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September 10, 2011
6:30 pm
Cassie
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Awesome!! I just "liked" them on FB.

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September 11, 2011
5:53 pm
Cassie
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One more puppy has been spoken for. I only have three at the house now. I don't like to admit defeat but they were whoopin' my butt!

 

PS. Those pictures are adorable!

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September 14, 2011
3:11 pm
mamawolf
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Change of topic.  You  know you are not going to have a good day when you walk out the garden first thing in the morning and finding evidence of deer having munched on some tomatoes and two yellow squash plus leaving their calling cards all over the garden!  Well, now we have a start on fertilizer next year.

 

Mrs. Fuzz I don't have three kinds of manure on my boots but does deer poop on my clogs count?

 

And this is for the marauding deer  machine-gun

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September 14, 2011
5:05 pm
Miss Judy
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Mamawolf,

Canned venison…yum! Just sayin'.

September 14, 2011
5:54 pm
Cassie
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How much easier could deer hunting be? Just open your window. :)

 

I don't have deer manure but I sure have a lot of dog poop. Between that and my kid getting sick, it's been bodily fluids week at my house. Be glad you're not stepping on it IN the house. lol.

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September 14, 2011
6:35 pm
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My DH said that if he had seen the culprits they would be hanging in the basement and then be butchered out to end up in the freezer or being canned!  Unfortunately, we live in the central part of the Springs and I'm afraid that if he was to shoot them (he doesn't have a bow anymore we might receive visits from multiple law enforcenemnt agencies and large sums of money would be involved along with some vacation time in the local Graybar Hotel!  Lesser amounts of cash were involved at the local purveyor of deer repellant!!!

Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt and dance like you do when no one is watching.
September 14, 2011
8:56 pm
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I want to live in a circle of neighbors of like minded folk who would be willing to help each other out and give support and share labor when it makes sense to do so, but not bug each other the rest of the time. 

Where we would probably just give a perfunctory knock at the back door and say "Hey" as we came in the kitchen door, and get together to can all the produce, or help butcher each others extra roosters, and share the worry when someone's child was sick… or pitch in to help when someone's grandfather was failing.

I'd be happy to milk someone else's goats or cow when they wanted a vacation, or keep up with their tomatoes when they wanted a break.  I'd love to know that a neighbor wouldn't mind mowing my lawn when I was too busy to do it, and that if their kids needed to come by after school for an hour or two, I'd be around to keep an eye on things.

I guess that means I want to live in the neighborhood I grew up in.  That's my Jibber Jabber for the day!

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September 14, 2011
9:35 pm
mamajhk
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I love it BEG.  That is the type of place I remember when I was growing up.  It still exists in parts of our country today mostly small midwestern towns.

September 14, 2011
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Hey Deb – you just described my neighborhood!  You saw the evidence at the retreat when one of those wonderful neighbors insisted on coming up to help pack things up.  A really great bunch of folks, for whom I give thanks every day.

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September 14, 2011
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  I'm up for that, too Miss Deb…should we start a commune?

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