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Soap Problems
May 15, 2011
9:33 pm
Spring Peeper
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Ok, I've been making soap now since last October. Cold Process method. So far not a problem…till yesterday. I wrap my soap (after letting it set for several weeks) in raffia. Just a few strands, not the whole thing. But yesterday I noticed that some of my older batches are moldy!

 

Have you ever heard of moldy soap? I didn't think it was possible. I keep it in plastic tubs, could that be be problem? I need help. I had to throw away 42 bars of soap. All different scents, from plain to vanilla. Oh and it's made with goat's milk.

Help! What's the problem?

May 15, 2011
10:47 pm
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AAACCKKK!!!  I would be devastated! 

Are you sure it's mold and not ash?

Are your plastic tubs covered? 

What's the superfat content of your soap?

Soap will retain and attract moisture because of the natural glycerin, so all of the water is not completely dried unless they've been sitting out for a year or so. 

 

I store mine in tubs (plastic shoeboxes), but I don't put the lids on.  I stack them on top of each cross wise so there is still air flow going through them and I keep them in a cool room.

“Learn all you can from the mistakes of others. You won’t have time to make them all yourself.”  ― Alfred Sheinwold
May 16, 2011
6:41 am
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I know it's not ash. It's mold. It's all the way around the raffia. My tubs are covered, so I'm suspecting that could be the problem, plus I've got wax paper in between the layers. It's been raining here for the last month non stop so the air is very damp. (We're all getting moldy)

 

Is there a way to salvage them? Hubby said to scrap it off, but I'm thinking when mold takes a hold (I made a rhyme) it's little legs go deep. Do you have any ideas?

 

Oh and I can't remember what the super fat was.

May 16, 2011
7:04 am
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Well, with cheese, they scrape it off and give it a vinegar wash I think it is…..

Are these for your use or do you sell them?

I wonder if it could be the raffia that's actually starting to mold from the moisture then spreading out……

“Learn all you can from the mistakes of others. You won’t have time to make them all yourself.”  ― Alfred Sheinwold
May 16, 2011
11:06 am
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This soap is to sell. I was wondering about the raffia also.

May 16, 2011
7:54 pm
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If you're selling it, I wouldn't just scrape it and wipe it……  but I'm sure it would be perfectly safe to use.  My next thought was to grind it up for laundry soap after scraping and wiping, but that's a whole lot of laundry soap!!!

People eat moldy cheese!  LOL!  Not sure if it's the same type of mold, though.

Maybe you should wait to wrap it until you're going to sell it.  It does continue to shrink even after leaving it for weeks to cure…though yours probably hasn't since they've been in covered tubs.

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May 17, 2011
9:01 am
bonita
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Is there a place here at CITR where all the soap recipes can be found?

May 17, 2011
12:09 pm
Amerayl
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I only store my soaps in cardboard shoeboxes. I don't have a problem with the fragrance going away and it lets my soap breathe. When I started learning about soap, the soap forums where all about moldy soap and how to store. So I just followed them. It is amazing how much water will evaporate out of soap. Lol, I found some really old bars of mine that the cigar band just fell off cause it shrunk so.

May 17, 2011
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bonita said:

Is there a place here at CITR where all the soap recipes can be found?

Yep!  The ones that were posted to the forum are here http://chickensintheroad.com/f…..8;search=1 and the ones that Suzanne posted on her blog are here http://chickensintheroad.com/h…..ves/soaps/

“Learn all you can from the mistakes of others. You won’t have time to make them all yourself.”  ― Alfred Sheinwold
June 2, 2011
1:20 pm
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I got some jewel-weed over the weekend and was able to make a pretty concentrated liquid form of it. Has anyone ever tried to make soap using it? It is great for Poison Ivy. I still have the dried leaves and things too, so I dint know if anyone had any suggestions. I was thinking just using it instead of the water…you think that would work?

"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living.  The world owes you nothing.  It was here first."  ~Mark Twain
June 6, 2011
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That would be very interesting to see. I don't see why not! I've made soap with tea. I don't think the color would come through if you add the leaves. I've made a calendula infused oil. I've saved the used petals to use in a soap. I'm making a salve with the infused oil.

I haven't heard about using Jewelweed for poison ivy. I've heard about using pine tar soap for poison ivy. Jewel weed sounds neat. I'll have to research it a bit more now that I've heard about it. :)

I'd try it in a small batch and see how you liked it.

June 6, 2011
10:25 am
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I've found no difference in effectiveness between Jewelweed soap and any other good soap that's not excessively superfatted (the main point is to scrub away all the plant oils and dry out the rash), and I suspect the lye & heat damage the good stuff in the Jewelweed juice.  What I have found very effective and soothing is applying the juice or macerated jewelweed directly to the exposed area or rash.  To prepare and preserve my therapeutic stash of jewelweed, I lightly chop plant bits and toss them in the blender with enough water to make a slurry – no need to blend until smooth, just until it'll pour into ice cube trays.  Once frozen, I pop the cubes into a ziplock bag and store until needed.  No need to thaw before use.  Just scrub the exposed area/rash with good soap, then rub the jewelweed ice cube over the area and let the juice and weed bits dry on your skin.  It's kind of messy, but so soothing.

June 6, 2011
12:13 pm
mammaleigh
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That is what I did, then I used the slush, as the water when I made my soap. I am not sure how it will turn out, I don't want to give anyone Poison Ivy just to test out my soap. It has a very unique smell to it. I am not sure if that is a good thing or a bad!! I just made it over the weekend and I am working in the yard today so if I get some I will know at least if it works. I have seen quite a few people swear by it and I know that my dad always found some when us kids got in to a patch, but we were using just straight jewel weed from the plant.

"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living.  The world owes you nothing.  It was here first."  ~Mark Twain
June 7, 2011
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From what I've read around the net, your tea method should work!

 

Wondering if making an infused oil with the jewel weed (chopping in blender with an olive, safflower or sunflower oil), then using that to superfat would work? 

“Learn all you can from the mistakes of others. You won’t have time to make them all yourself.”  ― Alfred Sheinwold
June 7, 2011
11:34 am
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Cindy, I am going to try that next time I make some. I have a patch of it that is very near to my parents house so it is another good excuse to go see them! I know that it will wilt some by the time I get it back to my house and have it processed but that is ok. Dad went and got some for me last time (he is not allergic to PI, they grow hand in hand) and brought me back a ton of it that I processed and froze. I want to try the olive oil next time and see if that will do anything different. I love the dark green color it has, it is such a deep green! My soap turned out a brown color which is ok, I would love to get that green though.

"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living.  The world owes you nothing.  It was here first."  ~Mark Twain
June 7, 2011
11:43 am
LauraP
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You can add it as a tea or in superfatting oils — either way will make very nice, interesting soap.  I've seen it done both ways and tried it both ways but I never sold jewelweed soap because I thought it wasn't the best or most effective use of what for me was a fairly rare commodity.  (Never was blessed with a huge, out-of-control patch, just a small, carefully tended patch that was sustainable if not overharvested.)

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