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November 21, 2011
11:18 am
BeckyW
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Me either Cindy…I am a little disappointed at the thought of redoing these, but presentation is important so I will be doing so….I "thought" that I adjusted all of my settings before printing, but will check again before hitting the "go" button…for extra measure I'm going to pick up some of the Krylon I think…

 

Thanks

November 21, 2011
11:34 am
BuckeyeGirl
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Epson printers use pigment ink which does not run like other ink jets.  Also, the cartridges are individual, so if one color gets low, you don't have to change the whole three color thingee.  I'll test something with a little soap involved too just to see, but it's fine for mailing labels which might get wet in transit.

Be back to report in a little bit! sun

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November 21, 2011
11:58 am
BuckeyeGirl
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Well, I had some water on the stove to boil, and that didn't make it run, and soapy water didn't make it run, and I had some vinegar water that I was soaking a piece of cheesecloth in and THAT didn't make it run. 

Epson

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November 21, 2011
1:26 pm
BeckyW
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Oh this is great information and I will look into an Epson.  You are talking about an inkjet printer correct?

I know I could source my labels out, but I like the control that comes with doing them myself.

The ink on my labels is actually smudging, almost being "erased", not running.  Once you open soap though, you throw away the label…but your lotions and bottled items will get handled more regularly so I need to address this asap.

 

Thanks for all the suggestions.

November 21, 2011
1:53 pm
BuckeyeGirl
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Yep, I have an Epson inkjet.

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November 21, 2011
2:48 pm
CindyP
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The smudging on the laser COULD be the fuser….that's what "bakes" the ink onto the paper.  I did some googling, because this was just bothering me!  Not sure what type of printer you have so no idea on a cost…that may be cheaper than a new printer and ink.

“Learn all you can from the mistakes of others. You won’t have time to make them all yourself.”  ― Alfred Sheinwold
November 21, 2011
3:30 pm
cincyjojo
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When I went into business for myself, I bought a Lexmark laser printer because of the features it offered.  I printed an envelope and put it in my purse.  Ran some errands and went to put the envelope in the mailbox and it was smudged almost completely off.  Salesmen told me it must be the paper.  I called the paper manufacturer, who produced quality paper used in just about every business in America.  Sent the paper to them for testing and there was nothing wrong with the paper.  As it was explained to me, the laser printer I purchased was not capable of heating the toner hot enough to set it (fuse) to the paper.  I took it back and purchased the HP printer.  Hope this helps.

November 26, 2011
11:05 am
mammaleigh
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OK I have a new one…has anyone ever made a hunters soap? I have read everything from boiling acorns to using anise oil…any thoughts?

"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living.  The world owes you nothing.  It was here first."  ~Mark Twain
November 26, 2011
10:23 pm
Nana Sandi
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Mammaleigh:

The old-timers I talked to around here all swear by eucalyptus soap. 

November 27, 2011
9:51 am
cincyjojo
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My brown sugar, cinnamon soap formed in paper tubes looks like sausage. LOL 

November 28, 2011
1:56 pm
Nana Sandi
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cinyjojo:  LOL  I tried doing some in TP rolls and they weren't attactive at all. 

November 28, 2011
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I actually cut the "tubes" into about 5 pieces and bevel the edges with a potato peeler…leaving nice personal sized soaps.  I sell these for $1 each at the shows.  For those that want a lot of different scents, but won't buy lots of bars, it makes them happy :)

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November 29, 2011
12:11 pm
Nana Sandi
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Cindy that is such a good idea!  You're a genius!  How do you package those ?

November 29, 2011
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I wrap with a ribbon with the tag hole punched and tied with it.

“Learn all you can from the mistakes of others. You won’t have time to make them all yourself.”  ― Alfred Sheinwold
November 30, 2011
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lizzie
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I have a question do you ladies use shrink wrap for your soaps when selling them at craft fairs? I have a craft fair this Sunday and am wondering if I need to shrink wrap my soaps or not, I do use a cigar band along with labels.  Thank you!!!!wave

November 30, 2011
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Lisa b
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I use a ribbon or a piece of raffia to tye my soap with .never tried plastic of any kind around them butterfly

November 30, 2011
3:14 pm
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Don't shrink wrap hot or cold process soap!  It doesn't let it breathe.  Cigar band, raffia or something like that and a label…

Here is a link to the FDA's claim on soap regarding labeling http://www.fda.gov/Cosmetics/ProductandIngredientSafety/ProductInformation/ucm115449.htm

Soap falls under the jurisdiction of the http://www.cpsc.gov/

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November 30, 2011
4:10 pm
BuckeyeGirl
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Prettiest soap packaging I've ever seen was fabric cut with pinking shears, then wraped as though a present, with a cigar band label around it holding it all together.  breathable, and very pretty.

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November 30, 2011
5:53 pm
lizzie
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Thank you to ALL for your replies!!!  I was wondering about the fact that the soap could not breath through the shrink wrap so I am glad I did not do this, I also label my soap with all the ingredients on the back with my name, phone number and address on the back of the soap.  I bought some Holiday scrapbook paper and am using that for cigar bands along with holiday yarns to tie the soap, they look cute.  Thank you so much for your replies!!!!!!happy-feet

November 30, 2011
7:13 pm
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Actually, I disagree about the shrink-wrap -- but with caveats.  Properly dried and cured soap can be safely shrink-wrapped, and the shrink-wrap actually will make a huge difference in storage quality in humid climates.  We did a lot of testing with various wraps and discovered that as lovely as cloth and paper wraps were, the product did not stay nice during an open air event in typical Missouri humidity.  In fact, I could predict whether the clouds moving in meant rain or not just by watching unwrapped soap -- the naturally occurring glycerin in both CP and HP soap will draw moisture from the air to it.  A hard bar may soften, and the surface can become slimy and even beaded with water simply by being exposed to the humid air.  Shrink-wrap solved that product -- for us, and for the customer. 

This will not work well, however, if the soap has not been allowed to dry sufficiently.  To be more specific, when we operated the soap business, we cured in a humidity-controlled room with a dehumidifier on 24/7, set to drop the room's humidity level below 40 percent.  We used a minimum 30-day cure with 60 days being the preferred range, then packaged in that room in shrink-wrap.  I still have a small box of soap from that era -- it's 11 years old now, folks, still individually shrink-wrapped, and it's been stored for 6 years on shelving in my basement pantry room.  In Missouri.  No AC until the daily temps are over 90, so there's a lot of humidity.  The unwrapped soaps in the bathroom will bead up with moisture before it rains, and those shrink-wrapped bars have not discolored or degraded.

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