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Cider Vinegar vs. White Vinegar...does it matter what I use?
July 25, 2011
8:00 pm
Drucillajoy
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I have a question…I have always used cider vinegar for making relishes, salsa, dressings or pickles (plus in a spray bottle to clean a few things around my house) & have always been pleased with the results. I notice sometimes in a recipe it is stated to use white vinegar, is there a reason for this? I guess I have always thought all white vinegar was good for was cleaning your iron or your coffee pot…enlighten me please chef

July 25, 2011
10:20 pm
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The acid in vinegar is acetic acid the flavors come from the cider from which the vinegar was made.

The analog is wine. The alcohol in wine is the same as the alcohol in vodka. The flavor comes from the grapes and the manner in which they were processed. You could make a sweet grape flavored wine with store bought grape juice and a bottle of 100 proof vodka. The ratio would be five parts grape juice and one part vodka. It wouldn't be chateau La fete Rothschild but if would still serve to intoxicate.

July 26, 2011
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Not knowing any of the technical stuff, for me, the difference is in the flavor. I like cider vinegar for when I want a little sweeter taste in my salad dressings and I use white vinegar when I want a straight vinegar tartness. I have not found that they work differently, but only that they taste slightly different. Try putting a tsp. of each in a cup of water and tasting. I also do use white vinegar for cleaning.

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July 26, 2011
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Thanks for the input…I guess my question stems from reading Suzanne's B&B pickle recipe & the one from the BBB…both the same recipe, except hers says white vinegar, the BBB doesn't specify which type. My preference seems to be the cider vinegar, so I guess I'll stick with that unless there is a good reason not to.

July 26, 2011
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Somewhere in all my reading, I learned that for pickling the vinegar used must say 5% acidity.  I remember seeing some apple cider vinegar that was listed at 4%, tho the bottle in my kitchen now says 5%.  That being equal, I would think, like the others, that the only difference would be the taste.

July 26, 2011
7:25 am
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Yes, for pickling, vinegars need to be 5% acidity. White vinegar is clear and gives a better visual appeal to pickled foods. I love cider vinegar and others but use mostly white for pickling. Cider vinegar for salad dressings, sprinkling on greens, etc.  I used some raspberry white balsamic in sauteed red cabbage two days ago. YUM! Different vinegars have different flavor notes, but as long as you use 5% vinegar, it's really up to you which you pickle with.

 

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July 26, 2011
12:55 pm
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Well, I'm pretty much in the ACV camp as well.  ACV, 5% acidity, for anything consumed including canning relishes, salsas, chutneys …. and white vinegar for cleaning.  I haven't slid into whole product pickling as I have a family who wrinkle their noses at pickled anything (sigh), but would likely go for the white vinegar for the clarity of the brine.  Now, I did manage to coax consumption of zucchini sweet pickle slices last year in ACV … I have hope for baby steps.

July 26, 2011
1:51 pm
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If it's for pickling, the 5% acidity is critical. The taste would be better with ACV, but a bit prettier with white, all acidity being equal. However, a lot of ACV on the market now is just colored, flavored white vinegar.

If you're using vinegars for dressings, mayo, deglazing pans, etc. I'd encourage you to look into getting a mother of vinegar (like a kombucha mother), which is a culture, and make your own! We use either fresh cider or hard cider; the mother doesn't care which. Or get one for making wine vinegar, white or red. You can't beat the flavor; it's cheaper; it's effervescent and alive and has probiotics, so it's good for you; and it's kind of a fun science experiment for kids and adults. If you have chickens, cut up the old mothers and feed it to them. They love it, and it's healthy for them too.

BUT do not use the home-made vinegar for canning, because you can't be sure of the % acidity, unless you have a pH meter and can do the conversion.

July 27, 2011
9:44 am
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Ruthmarie, I sell real homemade pickles locally, and I'm always getting people who say they don't really like pickles. But they change their minds when they try a good pickle – locally grown, pickled at the peak of ripeness, with quality ingredients. Store pickles are rank! And that's what most people know as a pickle, sad to say. So keep working with coaxing your tribe. I grew up with pickles of various sorts on the table for every lunch and dinner, at least as long as Gran was alive. My mom didn't pickle.

Funny story about how I got my cider vinegar mother: I bought a bottle of Bragg's ACV, which is a live culture vinegar. I dumped the last bit of it in a jug of commercial ACV and a mother formed. I pulled it out and put it in a half gallon jar of hard and sweet cider, and, two years later, she's happy, healthy, and making lots of vinegar. It's delicious, and slightly effervescent. I pulled a daughter out and lobbed it in a jar with odds & ends of wine after a party. The mother changes into a different looking being, but it works the same. And that is a most delicious vinegar. fork

July 27, 2011
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I make a mixed pickle using cauliflower, carrot, red bell pepper, celery and pearl pickling onions.  The recipe is in the  BBBook.  Their recipe calls for cucumbers, too.  I omit them because they get soft.  The recipe says just vinegar.  Not specifying what kind of vinegar.  I use white vinegar becasue it keeps the vegetables colors bright.  Same for corn relish, too.  I use cider vinegar for all other pickles especially the ones calling for tumeric because their color gets darker.  Adding spices and other ingredients flavor both types of vinegar and makes each kind of pickle taste great.  Making vinegar like Merryment does sounds great.  Make sure that your vinegar always has the correct 5% percent of acidity needed.  The plus is that we raise all the vegetables that are in the mixed pickle recipe.  The jars are beautiful and we are always asked for more when giving them as gifts.

July 27, 2011
2:37 pm
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Bev is right – and I can't stress it enough: 5% acidity for pickling!!! The salt and vinegar in pickling shouldn't be messed with.

Homemade vinegars are good for condiments, salad dressings, deglazing pans, even diluted with water for a refreshing summer drink, but don't can with them.

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