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December 31, 2011
11:22 pm
hartfelt
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happy new years to all

i'm a new kid on the block

have the hot water bath under my belt but want to learn about pressure canning

have read this site's, and others, about methods (and will continue to) but would really like to have your thoughts-hear your comments about canners–what should i be looking for

would really appreciate your advice

thanks!

January 1, 2012
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mamawolf
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Welcome to the best site anywhere.  There are so many of us canning that there will always be someone to answer your questions.  This was my first year using a PC and without the help from all the people here it might have been a disaster.  Again a welcome and what better way to start the New Year.

Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt and dance like you do when no one is watching.
January 1, 2012
10:47 am
Ross
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Hartfelt, I can answer your question with some questions. Ist. How many people do you cook for? 2nd. Do you enjoy making soup?

More answers from my experience. I cook primarily for my wife and myself so I can mostly in pints. If I have company I open two jars. When I canned some soup for a friend with a husband twin daughters and a new baby I canned chicken soup in quarts. Today I am canning 6 jars of beef stock with chopped meat for vegatable beef soup in the future. Those are in 24 ounce jars used first by Classico brand pasta sauce. That is enough meat and stock for a nice pot of soup. For many years I used an eight quart canner and a couple of years ago I bought a twelve quart. A twelve quart canner filled with jars and water is a good load for a strong person.

The people here can or have canned just about everything you can imagine so if you have questions be sure to ask. Just one more thing. This web site is the gold standard for everything about food: http://nchfp.uga.edu/index.html

January 1, 2012
12:18 pm
wvhomecanner
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Welcome to the Forum, Hartfelt! Buy the best and biggest PC you can afford. Walmart has a nice canner for less than $70 and will ship to your nearest store if it's not in stock. I believe it's a Presto. Yep, here's one as an example and free shipping to the store

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Pres…..er/5913467

All American canners are the cadillac but are much pricier – around $200.

PC'ing opens up a whole world of possibilities in canning. Meat, low acid veggies, soups, meals-in-a-jar. You'll love it!

 

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January 1, 2012
12:55 pm
Ross
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I tend to do small batch canning and find the smaller size canners convenient . I think I would rather have two 12 quart canners than one 22 quart canner.

January 1, 2012
1:59 pm
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Ross, I would RATHER have one of each! laugh

January 1, 2012
2:26 pm
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Judy, That would be the best. My largest cooking pot is only ten quart so my needs are rather limited. I don't keep a big enough garden to do more than supply seasonal use. Most of my meats are frozen. I can a little for convenience. Canned chicken is great for cold salads and all meats are wonderful on a cold day out on the boat.

January 1, 2012
4:42 pm
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Ross, I have a 16 qt canner.  There are just two of us that I can for, and I mostly do pints.   Quarts for soups & pie fillings.

The presto is a great canner, and has been around for probably 100 years!   It is fairly inexpensive and easy to use.   The American is very expensive, and it takes twice as long to heat up and twice as long to reach proper pressure and twice as long to cool down. so besides twice the price (or more) than the Presto, it also costs about twice as much to use it.  Plus it CAN'T be used on a glass top range!   They say even a water bath canner shouldn't be used on the glass top. we rigged up a propane tank and cook top outside which is where I use my canners.  (not so good when its windy or raining)  

Canning is great.    You will LOVE it.    Good luck and great canning! shroom 

January 1, 2012
4:45 pm
bbkrehmeyer
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Sorry, thought this post was from Ross!  

Should have addressed it to Hartfelt!!!!!hissy-fit

January 1, 2012
5:34 pm
Ross
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That's alright. your hear4t is in the right place. I think my canners are Mirro. Many changes in the safety features since 1972 when I bought the first. I still use both and often it is a matter of choice. The eight quart cycles a little faster than the twelve quart because the load is smaller. That is rather nice when I am canning the leftover soup from supper. Sometimes we don't want soup for supper for the whole week.

January 1, 2012
7:28 pm
mamajoseph
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Since a friend found me a 23 qt. PC for $3, that's what I have. It does take a long time to heat up, for sure, so if you are doing small batch things, smaller would surely be better. As for lifting it full of anything, I never even try. I use a pitcher for filling and emptying it.

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January 1, 2012
7:50 pm
mamacarpenter
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Hi Hartfelt!

 

i love canning and i know you will too! i googled it and found this…http://www.amazon.com/All-Amer…..B0002808ZM

If yours looks like this, then you can contact the All American company for details on your un-known part.

 

i love my All American and am canning hamburger tomorrow. I firmly believe that harder times are coming and i am preparing for my family. Learn from the wonderful folks here on CITR.

Ross, I would love your soup canning recipes! are they here in the recipe file?

 

Mama Carpenter

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January 1, 2012
8:03 pm
Ross
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My chicken soup base in there. It is just any poultry based stock with the meat picked from the carcase and onions, carrots and celery. One third meat one third veggies in the jar and fill with stock.  Season when you prepare the soup with some noodles or leftover rice and leftover veggies add a little water if you need it. For my red meat stock I just cook the meat from the bones and chop that with a knife. Fill as many jars as is appropriate for the amount you have  one ladle for each jar , round and round and finish with hot water to fill the jars. Should have about the same amount of meat in each jar.

To use for my 24 ounce jars of red meat, it is one potato, that same amount of carrot, an onion, some celery, a handful of cabbage and some forozen mixed veggies. season with a bay leaf, some rosemary, sometimes a pinch of crushed red peppers, salt and pepper. Garlic if you like.

January 1, 2012
8:58 pm
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thank you all SO much–i feel like i just walked into a kitchen filled with friends!  i love making soups and this is my primary goal at this point.  i will definately being doing big batch but i do like the idea of having 2 'medium' canners as it sounds as this might be more manageable.

i'm still scared stiff but so much more positive now that i know you're cheering me on (this is also my first fling with a forum)

happy new years from toronto, ontario, canada!

i'll be back when i get my pot

sharon

January 2, 2012
12:31 pm
Ross
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A few words about the jar capacity of canners. You can fit more regular pints than wide mouth pints. Can't get as many quarts as pints into the canner but you can get the same amount of food into the jars. That is a canner full of quarts equals a canner full of regular pints. It all hinges on how much you need to open for a meal. 

January 3, 2012
2:31 pm
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Ross, I noticed that you said " A twelve quart canner filled with jars and water is a good load for a strong person."

I never, ever move my canner when it is full.  The canner goes empty onto the stove and I pour 2 or 3 inches of water into it.  I add the jars as they are filled.  You shouldn't move the canner while it is under pressure, and when it cools and 'depressurizes', you pull the top off and take the jars out one by one. 

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January 3, 2012
5:10 pm
Ross
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Sparrow, I usually fill the canner with water at the kitchen sink. Jars and water to about 2 inches and bring the whole business up to heat. Then I have hot jars to fill with hot food. I dump the water from the jars into the canner until it is filled with enough water, and then the rest goes into the dish pan.

I NEVER move a hot canner.

January 3, 2012
11:36 pm
Lana
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Hi, everyone! I hope this is the right forum for my question. Years ago, when I lived in Washington state with all the wonderful fruits and home-grown vegetables, I did a lot of water-bath canning, and loved it. Several years ago, I moved to Phoenix, AZ to help my elderly parents, and I quit canning. (Lost Mom 7 years ago, but Dad is 94 and still going strong!!). ANYWAY…my great family knew how much I had enjoyed canning, so they got together and for Christmas this year I got canning accessories, several boxes of canning jars, a water bath canner, AND a pressure canner!! My problem is that I have a ceramic top stove. I have been researching and asking people who are experienced canners, and I can't get a definite answer about whether it is safe to can on a ceramic stove top. Some say they use theirs to can and have no problems, but others say it isn't safe because the glass could crack, and when the stove gets too hot, it will automatically lower the heat so that the top won't crack or break. This causes the canners to not get hot enough to safely can, especially the pressure canner, which I have no experience using. Help!! I don't know where to go from here. Any thoughts or suggestions? I would really like to get back into preserving for long-term storage. (Sorry this turned into a book!!)

January 3, 2012
11:56 pm
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Your sources are correct, most ceramic stove tops are not safe to can on either with a pressure canner or a BWB (Boiling Water Bath) due to the things you mentioned and the weight as well as the heat.  I think most warrantees are voided if you do try use one as well.  Do you have a propane grill?  Does it have a burner on it?  The burners used for deep frying turkey and such do NOT adjust enough, so don't try that, they do make smaller ones for camping etc that uses propane, so don't try using those big ones.

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January 4, 2012
1:02 am
Lana
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BuckeyeGirl, thanks for the fast reply!! I thought I was the only night owl! I don't have any way to cook/can except my stove. I have a nice patio, and (sorry to say this now, when everyone is in the middle of snow-and-ice winter, but remember, we get to 116 – 118 degrees and higher in the summer!!), the temperature now is in the 70's and 80's , so I could work outdoors. Is a propane grill an option? Or something else? I am on a fairly limited budget, which is another reason I would like to be able to preserve foods, but am limited on my options. Thanks for help!!

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