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Relish Fail
July 25, 2011
8:42 pm
mom2girls
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Today I made the zucchini relish out of the Ball Blue Book.  I followed the recipe exactly (except for being about a half cup of sweet peppers short) and it just did not thicken at all.  It basically looks like chopped pickles in brine.

 

I thought maybe I just didn't drain the chopped vegetables well enough after letting them soak in the salt and water, but I did drain in a seive over a pot, then rinse, and then drain again for twenty minutes.

 

Anyhow, so I now have two half pints of chopped zucchini pickles (about half of what the recipe said it would make).  I did have a lot of brine left over.  I did pack the chopped vegetables into the jar as best I could and covered with brine.  My question is are these still shelf stable or should I refrigerate them?  I guess my concern is that I had so much brine left that not enough is in with the pickles.  Or that if there was water still in the veggies that it diluted the solution.

 

Also in the future, if a relish fails to thicken, is there anything that could be done?  I didn't want to just add a thickener (Clear Jel) in case that changed the processing time and I was afraid to keep boiling (would the vinegar evaporate and effect the acidity?)  Any advice would be appreciated.

July 25, 2011
10:15 pm
Miss Judy
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Ummm…unless I put a thickner in my relish it is just basically chopped veggies in a sweetish vinegar brine.

July 25, 2011
10:22 pm
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If the acid and salt are there, they can't spoil and certainly can't harm you.

July 26, 2011
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Any relish I've made myself or enjoyed another's efforts are essentially chopped veggies in a pickle brine.  I don't recall ever eating a thick, stick-together pickle relish but then most of my life has been in CA with a decade in MA.  We have a country rich in regional food traditions that continue to surprise thanks to the proliferation of the Food channel and the internet.  Perhaps you are thinking of a chutney? … a spicy, briney, savory relish, cooked until thick, usually made with fruit although zucchini and green tomato are popular.  BTW, I have had a relish soak up so much of the brine after processing that it looked thick, but you really need a enough liquid brine to cover the top otherwise the relish darkens as it oxidizes.

Did you process your relish in a BWB? It's the heat processing plus the acid/salt combination that will make the relish shelf stable and not the thickening.  Even if you have leftover brine (save it for another run!), you shouldn't have any concern about the relish … and the small amount could last easily in the frig till used.  Two half-pints wouldn't last long in my house!

July 26, 2011
8:39 am
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I'm not sure what you mean by thick.  That's what relish is–chopped pickled veggies in a sugar/vinegar mixture!  If you filled the jars well then poured on the brine, then released any air pockets and processed BWB, it should be fine.

Clover made me do it.
July 26, 2011
1:26 pm
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Thank you all for your input.

I think it's because in the past I have only used this other zucchini relish that thickens with cornstarch (ClearJel) at the end of the boil down so it is very thick, like a chutney almost.  So I guess I was just expecting this to be the same.

I guess it didn't even seem like grocery store relish to me, which I know is thinner, but I think it is just that I chopped too coarse and next time I should chop the veggies a little finer.

Thanks!

July 26, 2011
1:43 pm
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How does it taste?  smiley-puppy

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July 26, 2011
5:00 pm
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On saving the extra syrup or brine – I tend to do that as well, but put it into the same size jars and process those with whatever is being canned.  Well, unless I know for sure that more of the same item will be canned very soon.  Then I add notes to the recipe to make appropriate ajustments when later doing a full recipe.

btw, many of us have found that the yield amounts listed in the BBB bear little resemblance to what we get in our homes!  So, don't feel at all bad about that!!  I've gotten yields from half the amount they list to twice as much, to the point that now when I use one of their recipes I prepare at least half again as many jars as they list, and enough very handy to double the number they list if needed.  But, their recipes are sooooo good that it is well worth the hassle.

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