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12:57 am June 26, 2010
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Ok, all this talk about the steam juicer! I WANT ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It will be a while, I have to conquer the steam canner first! Last summer I was pitting cherry plums for days and running them through a food mill, the steam juicer would have been perfect, I have learned so much from this site!!!
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6:08 am June 26, 2010
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KentuckyFarmGirl said:
I t's here! It's here! It's here!! 
Wow nice and fast! So, what ya putting in there first???
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6:52 am June 26, 2010
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Grandmatotwochicks said:
Ok, all this talk about the steam juicer! I WANT ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It will be a while, I have to conquer the steam canner first! Last summer I was pitting cherry plums for days and running them through a food mill, the steam juicer would have been perfect, I have learned so much from this site!!!
That was when I learned about this steamer juicer thing! I asked how to pit cherries faster…..it would have been a life saver then……..NOW I can't wait for the cherries!
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9:32 am June 26, 2010
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Cindy,
Cherries, I LOVE cherries, let us know what you make out of them!!!
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9:33 am June 26, 2010
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My cherries have come and gone for this year. I can't wait to use it next year for those. Oh the joy of no pitting!
I'm going to pick blackberries today! Dede, It did get here fast! It was sitting on the porch waiting for me when we got home from Bible school last night.
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11:50 am June 26, 2010
| Suzanne McMinn
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Okay, the trouble with a steam juicer is that all the recipes for syrups and jellies ASSUME you are starting with x quantity of fruit and working from there with a jelly bag so all the recipes are written that way! With a steam juicer, your recipe starting point is x quantity of juice–which doesn't necessarily correspond to whatever the x quantity of fruit was because you get SO MUCH MORE juice out of x quantity of fruit when using a steam juicer.
So. I'm searching recipes and trying to figure out how to make something correspond. The best I could find was a recipe that started with x quantity of apricot =puree= for a syrup. At least that gives me a measurement that isn't x quantity of fruit!
Anyway, ACK, I can't believe how many recipes I just looked at on various online recipe sites where they give unsafe canning instructions!! Such as, just fill the jars up with the hot syrup, turn the jars upside down them right side up and you're done! NO BWB. Just stick 'em on the shelf. Wow. I'm sure they got the recipes from their grandmas and everyone survived, but that is not according to safety guidelines. So many of these recipe sites have no oversight to insure safe instructions are given. Insert PLUG for Farm Bell Recipes here. We DO insure all recipes posted give safe directions for canning.
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12:52 pm June 26, 2010
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LOL! That is a problem we have observed in a whole lot of recipes, Suzanne! I'm with you that I would MUCH prefer that a recipe tell me how many cups or ounces/pounds of chopped or pureed whatever than "42 apples/peppers/oranges" because then we could just process as much of the whatever as needed to get that amount. And maybe substitute some grapefruit for the orange!
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Anulos qui animum ostendunt omnes gestemus!
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8:43 pm June 26, 2010
| KentuckyFarmGirl
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Just close your eyes and imagine me with my steam juicer wrapped lovingly in my arms twirling around my kitchen to the strains a slow love song………..sorry got carried away but I too am now in love with my steam juicer. I have 3 1/2 pints of beautiful blackberry juice sitting on my counter. Some will become jelly, others will be used in homemade blackberry ice cream. I usually spend hours with messy jelly bags and strainers and still can't get all the little seeds removed. If I had only had this last month for the cherries!
The insert in my pectin box tells me how many cups of prepared juice to use for making jelly. I am assuming this is still the correct amount if using the juice form the steam juicer, right?
As far as those unsafe recipes, they scare me! I BWB or pressure can everything I can.
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9:26 pm June 26, 2010
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Congratulations, KFG! Enjoy the moment, and thanks for sharing it with the rest of us!! 
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8:01 am June 27, 2010
| Suzanne McMinn
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Here's the apricot jelly recipe I came up with for the apricot juice from my steam juicer!
http://chickensintheroad.com/f…..t-jelly-2/
I'm thinking we should add a sub-category on Farm Bell Recipes under Preserving for steam juicer-friendly recipes!
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9:59 am June 27, 2010
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I love that idea! I was amazed at the amount of juice I got from 2-3 quarts of blackberries. I'll be picking again later today.
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10:26 am June 27, 2010
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KentuckyFarmGirl, yes, me, too, the juice you get from a steam juicer is soooo much more than you get in the traditional jelly bag method. It makes recipes that say start with x quantity fruit useless because x quantity fruit with a steam juicer will get you a totally different amount of juice than x quantity of fruit in the jelly bag method! That's why I'd like to set up a sub-category for steam juicer-friendly recipes. If we all post the recipes we make from using our steam juicers, it would be really helpful to be able to click that sub-category and see all the various things we can do with our juices and stocks!
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11:31 am June 27, 2010
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Kind of off topic here, but related…
I just can't see why recipes don't simply say something like: "X cups/ounces of pulp/cut up fruit/puried whatever/juice (approximately X medium whatevers – your mileage may vary)" giving you an idea whether the recipe calls for several bushels of produce or a couple of the item but allows for a much more accurate ratio to the other ingredients. There are so many variables in the size of individual pieces of produce. Yes, a pint of blueberries is fairly standard, but peppers, oranges, squash and such are liable to be any size from very small to gigantic.
Hey! Maybe we can start a trend here!!
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11:34 am June 27, 2010
| Suzanne McMinn
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Ha. It's even worse when a recipe says something like, 28 medium peaches. RIGHT. Like that's not totally subjective!!!!
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12:07 pm June 27, 2010
| Suzanne McMinn
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I'm steaming some beef ribs today and I'll see how that goes! I sprayed the basket with some oil just in case. I thawed the ribs just enough to get the butcher paper off. This is meat we don't like to eat as is–the way the butcher cut these ribs, they are IMPOSSIBLE to eat. The last ones I cooked, we ended up giving to the dogs because there was just no way to get the meat out unless you WERE a dog and could sit there sucking on the bone all day. It was just ridiculous, big boned ribs with meat inside the bone and no way to get to it. So. I'm going to steam them and see how that works, if it will leave me with some nice meat that will fall out of there and some broth to can, though I'm not sure how much it will be since it's just ribs and it's MOSTLY bone! Anyway it's my first meat experiment with the steam juicer!
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12:09 pm June 27, 2010
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Precisely! Last year we had some humongous peaches. iirc one of them weighed out at almost 2 pounds, with a normal sized pit! It only took about three of those to make a batch of jam!! And they were delicious, too. Yum! Guess that is why I like the recipes inside the pectin box so much…
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12:29 pm June 27, 2010
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Anxious to see how the rib experiment comes out Suzanne!
On the other issue – on C2 there are as many people who see a recipe that says something like "8 cups sliced peaches" and want to know if anyone can tell them how many peaches that will take to make 8 cups….. LOL.
The question is difficult from either angle on quantities I think.
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1:14 pm June 27, 2010
| Suzanne McMinn
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Well, it's pumping beef stock out, but it's hard for me to imagine the meat at the end being very good! We'll see. If it's not tough and I can shred it, it would probably be good in casserole type dishes or burritos, something where a lot of flavor is added back.
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7:50 pm June 27, 2010
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I'm working on my blackberry jelly recipe post now. I made jelly this morning and it turned out perfect!
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9:09 pm June 27, 2010
| Suzanne McMinn
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Great! I can't wait to see. I'm hoping I get blackberries this year!!
I am more in love than ever with the steam juicer after doing meat in it!!! These ribs came out more tender than I have ever had them come out before. They were more like a really good tender pot roast. The meat just flaked off the bones. I got about 2 quarts of stock (this wasn't a whole ton of meat or anything) and a LOT of meat, more than I could believe was on those ribs!!! And it was still juicy. I figure I could have steam juiced them longer but I was trying to split the difference between getting a good amount of stock and still having great meat. I steam juiced them about 6 hours.
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