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Cole Crops????

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9:48 pm
July 7, 2009


Stephanie

Stuck in Suburbia

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This is my first year having an actual raised bed garden – 4x8.   I'm still getting zukes, and maters, and basil, and cukes out of it but I think I need to start thinking about my cole crops.  Do I just start them as seeds outside?   I looked and most things say to start them July 15 through Aug. 1.  Is it too hot to start them outdoors? 

9:51 am
July 8, 2009


monica

Mighty Chicken

posts 494

WaveIt probably depends much on the temps.  Is it hotter or colder than previous years in your area?  What zone do you live in?  Cole crops can grow nicely well into a frost and even covered after that, if you baby them.  I remember snow on the ground at Thanksgiving and we had fresh brussel sprouts.  Hungry

You could always start a few outside and see what happens. . . Then you will know for future years.  One of the books I have read suggests black plastic in the spring to absorb heat.  I bet you could use white to shield some of the heat.  CloverSun  Let us know how it turns out. . .I am getting ready to so some planting myself!

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9:51 am
July 8, 2009


Salamander

Charleston, WV

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posts 1031

Okay what are Cole crops???

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10:00 am
July 8, 2009


beeyourself

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cole crops are cool weather crops…some things grow better in cooler temperatures…and tolerate cooler temperatures…my dad always sowed turnips after the potatoes were harvested.  I love turnips – only raw or roasted – I can't eat them squishy.

10:06 am
July 8, 2009


monica

Mighty Chicken

posts 494

Cole crops are those in the cabbage/collard/broccoli family.  This is getting close to the right time to plant them, too.  When you decide some of your crops are done–lettuce and spinach are bolting, carrots and beets are dug up, peas wither up and dry–plant another crop of something you might plant in the spring. 

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10:09 am
July 8, 2009


beeyourself

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Tell you what – it's not time in Texas!  No

10:12 am
July 8, 2009


GeorgiaZ

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Daddy plants his in October. It doesnt get cool till then.

11:02 am
July 8, 2009


Salamander

Charleston, WV

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posts 1031

beeyourself said:

cole crops are cool weather crops…some things grow better in cooler temperatures…and tolerate cooler temperatures…my dad always sowed turnips after the potatoes were harvested.  I love turnips – only raw or roasted – I can't eat them squishy.


Thanks! I had never heard them called that before.

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11:35 am
July 8, 2009


monica

Mighty Chicken

posts 494

Don't you just love the weather this year!Devil with Tail

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2:18 pm
July 8, 2009


GeorgiaZ

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monica said:

Don't you just love the weather this year!Devil with Tail


Yes I do! the weather in Alaska is just about right about now!

5:11 pm
July 8, 2009


monica

Mighty Chicken

posts 494

It looks like it is about to rain any second, but it never really starts.  At least we are getting a breeze and it isn't extremely humid, so I don't have to water very often.  Sun

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6:15 am
July 10, 2009


Stephanie

Stuck in Suburbia

Big Chicken

posts 50

monica said:

WaveIt probably depends much on the temps.  Is it hotter or colder than previous years in your area?  What zone do you live in?  Cole crops can grow nicely well into a frost and even covered after that, if you baby them.  I remember snow on the ground at Thanksgiving and we had fresh brussel sprouts.  Hungry

You could always start a few outside and see what happens. . . Then you will know for future years.  One of the books I have read suggests black plastic in the spring to absorb heat.  I bet you could use white to shield some of the heat.  CloverSun  Let us know how it turns out. . .I am getting ready to so some planting myself!


Hi…  Sorry for the late reply.  Everytime I think I'm going to have free time, life happens. 

I'm in zone 7B – Charlotte, NC.   It's still pretty warm out, will be unitl probably September.  I really want to try some cole crops and my research says July 15-Aug 1 for sowing, but it seems so early.

7:30 am
July 10, 2009


CindyP

Hart, MI

Admin

posts 7627

You may be in an area that the first frost isn't in October like all the zone charts I've found, you have to know your frost dates — that would be the key.  There are different varieties that work best for late planting.  I found a very informative site that I wish I'd found before…….it's a little more explanatory.

http://www.veggieharvest.com/

On the left side towards the bottom, click on calender, that gives zones and spring/fall frost dates (if that doesn't match your area's frost dates, just go by what you know!).  You can then click into each vegetable and it gives you amounts of days the plants need before the first frost in the fall.  It also gives you the soil/water needed for each plant — I found that very informative.

Good luck, Stephanie!

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9:56 am
July 10, 2009


monica

Mighty Chicken

posts 494

WaveI know how the busy factor goes, especially this time of year! 

My chart says Aug 10 but they go by frost date, not zone.  I live in a 5b/6a zone.  I don't think the seeds care.  You could probably get them to start in the house and take them out when they get a a little bigger.  I just saw that the spinach that I planted last week sprouted.  I would think that it would be worth experimenting with a few seeds to see whether they grow.  You can always add more to the garden when the proper chart time arrives. Think of yourself as a researcher and document dates and temps for next year, especially of planting and harvest periods.  That way what grew well,you can repeat next year & stuff that didn't –you might try again, but different care.  Turtle 

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