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"Holey" Roses--I need a cure.
May 3, 2012
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Something is eating my rose bush leaves. A few day ago they looked so nice, and this morning I noticed some of the leaves have little holes in them and a couple of the buds look wilted. They have had had plenty of water noting all of the rain we have had. I dont like using chemicals in my yeard because we have a pet. Does anyone have a "recipe" for something I can spray on my roses that will be non-toxic?

                     Thank you.

  "Be kinder than necessary, everyone is fighting some sort of battle."

May 3, 2012
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Define "little holes", leaf cutter bees? leaf cutter ants?  Aphids on the buds?

May 4, 2012
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Before treating your roses, I would take a sample of it (a small branch with a bud) to the local garden centre to see if they can diagnose your problem. You don't need to buy anything from them, but they might just be able to pinpoint the true issue and might be able to suggest an organic way of treating it, if it is needed. If you have leaf cutter bees, you will have the most perfectly cut out little circles in the leaves. The advice that you are going to get is to not treat it. The holes look unsightly to some, but will not harm your bush. 

I used to work at a plant nursery, and we were supposed to suggest the chemical applications, if needed of course, and say that the more natural methods are not as effective. I no longer believe that this is always the case, however. I DO prefer doing things naturally. There are too many risks to people and animals with the other chemicals.

Do you have a picture that you can upload so that I can have a look at it?

Overall, I would suggest still going to a nursery and getting them to touch and see the sample and diagnose the problem. It is always best to handle it in person.

May 4, 2012
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happy-flowerHello--I wish I could show pictures, but I am not sure how to, and I know I have to use my printer to do so, unfortunatley, it isnt work properly, I have had a new one sitting here for over a year, but am not that "techy" to hook it up.

 I did check the bushes, no pests that I can acually see, but the holes are inside the leaves not on the edges, and they are gray spots on the leaves. They look almost like a bleach spatter would look on colored fabric.

 There are no garden centers anywhere close by, but when we do go near one I will take a leaf sample with me. I strongly agrre about using chemicals, I do have to use some out side of the "small" yard which is fenced, but prefer not to do so inside the fenced area.

                         Thank you for you help.

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May 5, 2012
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I have some ideas, but I really can't give you any real direction unless I can see the plant itself. I did find two sites, with pictures, that you will want to check out.

List of Rose Problems and Diseases

http://www.olyrose.org/pests.htm

There was a wonderful book that the nursery that I worked at had. It was really comprehensive and covered trees and shrubs. I have often wished that I could have got my hands on a copy of it. I heard that it was out of print, but I am sure that I found it or one similar to it years ago online. I can't remember the name of it anymore, but if I can find out what it is again, I will be looking quite hard for it. I loved that book. If I had it, you can be sure that I could have given you some definite maybes. ;)

May 8, 2012
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Do you have a local agricultural county extension agent?

 

Ours is quite helpful in matters like this and can often give recommendations of experts to email or call.

 

I often use a sprinkle of diatomaceous earth on the ground around my roses for creepy crawlies.

 

Also try making some Insecticidal soap. You can buy this at local garden center or make it yourself. Here is a recipe link: http://www.organicgardeningweb.com/Recipe%20book/Pesticide%20Recipes/Insecticidal%20Soap.htm

 

I have used the soap and spray it on my roses every 10 days. It really helps. Also you can add baking soda to it if you are having a problem with powdery mildew. 

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May 8, 2012
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Thank you littlebird, this is the sort of thing I was hoping to find. I have also ordered a set of books by Jerry Baker to keep on hand.

                                 Thanks again for your help.

  "Be kinder than necessary, everyone is fighting some sort of battle."

May 8, 2012
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No problem. I often prefer a homemade solution before trying store bought chemicals.

 

I have grown a variety of roses from heirlooms to hybrids and always try to stay on top of them with home made sprays. Healthy green rose leaves and buds make me happy!

 

The diatomaceous earth can normally be found in a 5lb bag at the hardware store. Sprinkle a tablespoon or so around the base of the rose (where crawling bugs would walk up the rose) and use in conjunction with insecticidal soap. Works against insects, but kills the 'good insects' too so use at will.

don't wait for the storm to pass, learn to dance in the rain

May 12, 2012
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Joell said
Thank you littlebird, this is the sort of thing I was hoping to find. I have also ordered a set of books by Jerry Baker to keep on hand.

                                 Thanks again for your help.

I really hate to tell you this but many of his so called recipes & remedies don't work.  Like the grits or corn meal for ants was disproved long ago.

Some can be dangerous like the tobacco tea...if strong enough, it is toxic to everything.

 

If you want answers to your questions...contact your local county extension service office.  Their answers may not be organic but if you stress that is what you want they should be able to find the answers.  Also, don't discount google.

If I learned something today, the day wasn't a waste!

May 13, 2012
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happy-flowerThank you for the heads up, I appreciate it.

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