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Lettuce already!
February 2, 2011
12:54 am
courtneyb
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We had such a nice day today, I was out looking at my flower beds dreaming about the veggies that I was going to grow in them this year, and itching to start, when I took a look at the lettuce bed.  I cleaned it out at the end of fall and there shouldn't have been anything but I few really determined weeds, and leaves that had fallen.  It is only February, and the lettuce bed is half full of volunteers!  I had let some of the plants go to seed, to collect them, and not only is there lettuce in the bed, there is lettuce in the yard, and in a nearby flower bed.  Mostly the Romaine which we were not going to grow this year, because my husband didn't like it.  This year was going to be Black Seeded Simpson, and Bib, but so far the garden has a mind of its own, and no I do not have a cold frame. 

The leaves were mostly little but we had salad with dinner because even if I let them be, they most definetely need thinned.  What a treat.

February 2, 2011
6:53 am
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That amazes me that they survived the harsh weather!  If I would have planted it outside already, it would have died.  :)

February 2, 2011
11:09 am
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I know, how on earth did this happen?  There was all that snow last week, I would have thought it would have killed the new growth but it must have insulated it.  Honestly though, when it says that you can start your lettuce when the weather is cool I thought that it meant a bit warmer than now.  When I plant the bed in earnest I think I will start earlier than I planned, and cover it when there is a frost.

Actually as I was cleaning and picking out all those little leaves, my husband laughed at me and offered to go buy lettuce because it was taking so long.  I asked him what the fun was in that, and told him I was eating that lettuce. 

He stopped making fun when he ate the salad that night. 

I wonder what he meant when he said I was easy to entertain, lol.

February 2, 2011
12:50 pm
Miss Judy
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My husbands grandmother always tried to plant her lettuce on Valentine's Day. She would make sure the lettuce bed was raked in the fall. She always had wonderful lettuce early in the spring. And as we all know February in Missouri is NOT warm.

February 2, 2011
2:05 pm
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I thought it was St Patricks day for lettuce! 

Cortney, just shows what mighty good soil you created there!  :)

February 2, 2011
2:43 pm
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I had a neighbor that always planted spinach in the fall and mulched it with straw. He had very early spinach that way.

February 2, 2011
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MaryB
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Well if that all works then I should be able to leave bulbs in the ground and put hay or something over them?  What do you think?  I dont have any place to keep bulbs if I pull them out.

February 2, 2011
4:33 pm
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I have had Gladiolas in my garden for ten years and dig them only to thin and cull. They withstand the freezing well enough with just the dead foliage for mulch. Dahlias don't stand freezing but most everything else does.

February 2, 2011
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That's good to know Ross.  I hope what I left in the ground will surprise me and come back.  IF they do, I'll cover them next year.   :)

February 2, 2011
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MaryB said:

I thought it was St Patricks day for lettuce! 

Cortney, just shows what mighty good soil you created there!  :)


St. patricks day is for planting the potato. I never had much luck planting then but Grandma Clear did. She would be in a tizzy if she didn't have them in the ground on the 17th of March. Mine always rotted.

February 2, 2011
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Now Miss Judy, that same green thumb is in your blood, too!  :)  It must be the potato you planted. ;)

February 2, 2011
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MaryB said:

Now Miss Judy, that same green thumb is in your blood, too!  :)  It must be the potato you planted. ;)


That's my Hubby's grandmother. However my grandmother Ashton had a green thumb so bright it was neon! Sorry to say I haven't seen a speck in my blood! I plant every year…but harvest very little! I did ok with the sq. ft. garden last year. Maybe I am just a late bloomer.turtle

February 3, 2011
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Yep, that's a girl, never give up.  I know I've went thru the same thing, but this year I've got hope!  A new way of gardening..  in containers!  I'm looking for a great harvest (lol).  I'll post pictures for sure! ;)

February 3, 2011
8:45 am
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I have been reading the Lettuce! posts and I am getting some good information. I didn't have much luck with spinach and lettuce last year, I had it in my vegetable garden and I think it was just too hot, and the moles. Lord, those moles. If anyone else is having successful lettuce gardens please post about it. I want to learn!

February 3, 2011
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Moles are carnivores, they are after the worms and grubs in the soil.

February 3, 2011
9:06 am
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Then what ate the lettuce? Entire plants dissappeared overnight.  Which direction is ideal for lettuce to face? North, did someone say? Or west? The kids used to have a sandbox that sat facing west with thick pine trees on the east. Semi-shaded by an enormous walnut tree to the south. Soil is pretty rich there now, would this be a good spot to bring in some soil and start a lettuce bed?

February 3, 2011
9:09 am
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Yep!  Moles are your friends!  The reason they like lettuce patches is that slugs and snails like lettuce!  They also aerate the soil but they make lawns look a bit messy and unkempt, which is all right with me, but people with golf course lawns don't like them at all so they go around poisoning the wee things.  Of course they usually pour so many chemicals on those kinds of lawns that the mole poison is the least of the worries.

I also have some stones and cracked pots in the corners of my garden for toad houses, because toads eat slugs and insects.  Try to make friends with your garden carnivores!  (you can also buy 'toad houses' at garden stores, but my toads seem to like half buried pots and flat rocks set at angles just fine!)

Rabbits and deer like lettuce, and it's amazing what a few slugs can do over night in a lettuce patch.

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February 3, 2011
9:24 am
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Ahh. The rabbits and the deer. My neighbors are beans and corn and I share it all with the lovely deer. And the rabbits. I put a plastic fence around my garden last year to keep said animals out, thought it worked pretty well, didn't see any deer tracks in my garden. But when I took the fence down in the fall there was a perfectly round hole chewed in the fence where the squash branches were covering it. Oh, those clever rabbits! Thanks BuckeyGirl. Also, I have a woodchuck who lives in the brush pile by my garden. He was in the lineup of suspects as well…Lol, I have much to learn!!

     After we started composted our kitchen waste into our garden I noticed the soil was black, rich- beautiful. Then the moles came. I didn't realize they were so benificial! I did not do anything to deter them but I did think they were eating my plants. I will definately make it more inviting for them. And I will be investing in wire fencing this spring!

    Any thoughts on which direction a lettuce garden should face?

February 3, 2011
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Well now, woodchucks DO like veggies, but they don't like to be too awfully far from their holes… hopefully you don't have any especially bold ones, and I suppose moles could damage the roots of veggies with their tunnels, but really I've never had that much trouble with them.  Deer can lean on that plastic fencing and push it down enough that they can reach plants, but you'd probably notice that so it doesn't sound like that's your trouble.  I vote on wascally wabbits and maybe some insects too.

As far as which way lettuce patches should face, that can depend on so many things, but lettuce doesn't like extreme heat, so morning sun is good, but not too much afternoon sun.  I can only grow a very small patch of early crops here since I live on a hill, surrounded by woods, but when I had lots of room, I planted in wide rows (2 ft wide), sort of an adapted square foot style.  things like lettuce in blocks filling a 2 ft square etc and staggering bigger plants in the row so I fit more plants in that way.

I'd look at the way the sun traveled, and make sure I had the fat rows going east to west, so the sun traveled along the rows.  That way, tall crops didn't shade lower ones and everyone was happy.  There are so many ways to do it though and it has to make sense to you.

An early crop of lettuce, with some green beens down the middle is good too, by the time the bush beans get big enough to shade the lettuce out, it's too hot for the lettuce and it's going to seed, then the beans take over.  Then a later patch of lettuce in an area that is doing poorly, and the lettuce starts when it's hot, but is at its prime when the weather is cooling off.

My gardens are never the picture perfect kind, but I usually got goodies spread out over the season very nicely.

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February 3, 2011
5:04 pm
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It could also be voles…NOT related to moles.  They are like a mouse but have a short tail and just LOVE all garden veggies!  They will eat the entire plant sometimes starting at the bottom (roots) and keep coming up.

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