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Lettuce already!
February 3, 2011
9:08 pm
courtneyb
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One of our most rascally garden pests is a ground hog.  He loves green beans.  A few summers ago there was a whole family.  We lived right next door then, and the green bean plants were always eaten down to the ground. 

My MIL gets the credit for the wonderful lettuce bed.  I just took over it last year, after it sat for a few years without being used.  It gets just enough sun and between the shade of the garage and the lilac bushes it gets plenty of shade.  I even had lettuce, albeit a  bit strong in August.

I am curious as to what other veggies like shade.  Any suggestions?

February 4, 2011
10:05 am
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I can't think of any veggies that like shade offhand, but I'd like to chime in about garden pests. While we don't have groundhogs, we did have deer last summer that visited our tomato patch every night to eat green tomatoes. They treated our garden like a salad bar. Never had that problem before. We think it was a doe and her 2 fawns.

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February 4, 2011
10:41 am
aprilejoi
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I've been told that the largest deer herd in our county occupies the acreage around me. We have counted, literally,  almost 100 at one time. We are surrounded by farmland so in the summer it is hit-and-miss wether or not they find our gardens.  One summer my neighbor was losing everything to the deer so he ran an extension cord down to his garden and put a radio on a timer. He'd read that the radio would scare off the deer. It did. Till the deer realized the times the radio was going off and merely adjusted their schedules to arrive a little earlier in the evening and a little later in the morning.!

February 4, 2011
12:08 pm
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I have been doing something for several years that helps deter the deer.

I take old CDs, put 2 together-shiny side out, tie them together with fishing line w/fishing swivel attached.  Tie 2 of these together so that they each turn independently (w/swivel) and then tie them in a tree or along a wire above the fence…any place that the wind will blow them.  If there is no light source during the night (my garden), I bought several of those solar sidewalk lights.  The CDs reflect  the light from the solars or from my neighbor's night lights and it doesn't have any particular rythem.  It won't stop them, it just helps deter them.  The deer will walk close by but it has kept them out of several areas for me.

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June 18, 2011
11:47 am
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After the late start getting the garden in I harvested a basket of collard greens this morning and some lettuce!  Nothing like home grown green food, litterally green. LOLsun

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June 18, 2011
6:15 pm
aprilejoi
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Lettuce is nearly done here in my area. But I had a lovely harvest. This fall, i plan to plant only head-type lettuce, not leaves. The leaves were hard to harvest and clean. I pulled root with every leaf. I will compare with the head type lettuces to see if it is better. Any one else have a preference?  But I LOVED having good, healthy, fresh lettuce, too!

June 18, 2011
9:33 pm
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My lettuce is still going strong, but what I do is allow the leaf lettuce to get to the size I want and cut it off with scissors about two inches from the ground. I plant in rows a week or so apart, and by the time I get to row three row one has grown back to harvest size.  I can usually do this three times, and there is nothing but the occasional weed or bug in the lettuce.  With the head lettuce I harves the whole head. 

I froze my spinach since I had so many other greens I was overwhelmed, (I love that kind of problem) and tried something new this year.  I froze my radish greens since my radish harvest was such a bust, and I wanted the space for a new crop.  After blanching they werent prickly, and had a slightly milder but similar taste to spinach.  It made me feel a little bit better about my radish failure, and I can try again in the fall.

June 19, 2011
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aprilejoi
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My radishes weren't good either! Lots of green and no bulb.  For me, I believe they didn't get enough sun. I like your 3 row system. How long are your rows?  Maybe I will wait to harvest till they are big enough to cut. Thanks for the tips!

June 19, 2011
11:28 pm
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I agree with courtneyb on the lettuce harvesting.  I get several cutting on my leaf lettuce by just leaving a few inches and cutting the tops off with the scissors.  I haven't tried head lettuce yet but I may have to try some next year. 

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June 20, 2011
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aprilejoi
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Last winter I bought Living Lettuce from my local grocery store. Living lettuce is lettuce with the root ball still attached, just in case you hadn't heard of it.  I planted those root balls in my lettuce garden and have been enjoying the free, healthy heads that have grown. My plan is to mulch heavily with straw, maybe even a litlle cloche, to help it survive this next winter and see if it will continue on into next year! The quality is great!

June 21, 2011
9:50 am
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Cleaning leaf crops is easy with a large tub or canning kettle, fill it will water and drop the loose leaves in. Swish them around, the dirt and grit will settle to the bottom. A sink full of water does the same thing in the kitchen. If you use the tub near the garden then you have the water for the plants.

June 22, 2011
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aprilejoi
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Thank you Ross. Thats exactly what I did and it worked like a charm!

June 24, 2011
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I have been washing my lettuce as Ross said, in a washtub.  I keep a second tub, and after swishing it, I move the lettuce to the second tub and water the plants with the dirty water, and if I need to, I was again, but the biggest benifit is when I do it outside near the water hose, I can leave the creepy crawlies outside. 

My lettuce bed is actually a bit too deep.  It is roughly 4 feet deep and 5 feet long.  It would be fabulous if one of the long sides was not up against the garage wall.  Leaning in to weed the middle part of the back, without squishing any plants can be ackward. 

I actually have 4 rows of lettuce.  I put a row of butterhead in the very back because once I thinned it I planned to leave it alone and let it grow.  This was the first year for that, and it worked great.

The three rows off lettuce are the three rows in front of the head lettuce.  I divided the bed in three sections, and had three rows of black seeded simpson, ruby, and a mesclun mix.  I didn't trim down the mesclun mix the same as the lettuce.  I pulled those as the plants became big enough, and smaller plants would fill in soon after.  I tried to plant the rows of lettuce 8-10" apart (they dont behave), and have had more than I have needed this year, but we love fresh salad.

You lose some quality as the summer heats up, but I will keep it going as long as I can, then start over in August.

I do plan to let some of the lettuce go to seed in the fall so I can plant from my own seeds next year.

When it finally gets too cold for lettuce I am probably going to do lettuce in window boxes in my studio like I did last winter.  It did alot better than I would have guessed.

Living plants sound great, and seeing how long you can keep one going sounds kind of interesting, but growing from seed is fun, inexpensive, and extremely easy.  When mine went to seed last year, I had lettuce growing in my flower bed nearby and in the yard this spring.

June 24, 2011
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All this lettuce talk made me inspired to go out and plant some in a pot! Hope it's not too late in the season. It was last year's seed so it may not come up.

Courtneyb, all veggies need sun, but the leafy greens like some shade too. You can shade them among taller plants, or use the reemay garden cloth.

Remember, if it rains on your picnic it's also raining on your garden!
June 24, 2011
5:25 pm
aprilejoi
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Speaking of shade cloths; I came across a thread on the subject and there are some folks that use tule (like wedding tule fabric) as shade cloth. It lets the rain in, keeps pests out and is the least expensive. I used shade cloth I bought from Amazon but I plan to use the tule. I like to garage sale and am pretty confident I can find it over the summer. The shade cloth does extend the season ,on both ends, for tender plants.

June 24, 2011
7:16 pm
brookdale
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Yes, Apriljoi, you can use almost anything that will provide some shade. I've used big old sheer curtains gotten from the thrift shop with good results too.

Remember, if it rains on your picnic it's also raining on your garden!
July 12, 2011
7:14 pm
aprilejoi
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I have been harvesting mty lettuce per your suggestions and I am won over! I love leaf lettuce! Now that my season is winding down when should I plant for fall?? I want to plant spinach for fall too. And when its all done, plant for spring and use mulch (dried leaves) and a shade clothe for next springs bounty.

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