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Seed starting time - Who owns your seed?
October 3, 2012
11:47 am
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Just bumping this for anyone new; seed ordering time is almost upon us! (Although, I have found that with all the shade in my yard from the neighbor's tree, having a garden isn't an option for me here. :(  )

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October 3, 2012
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To answer the question of who owns your seed. You do, but if it has been patented the company that owns the patent has exclusive rights to selling it. The concern is farmers who would sell patented genetically modified seed, not the home owner who plants a half acre.

October 3, 2012
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Want to read something really scary about GMO plants?  Just google "France non-GMO".  Seems there's a new French study that documents how gmo corn fed to lab rats causes genetic mutation in the rats.  France has put a ban on gmo plants, along with most of Europe.  California is trying to get Proposition 37 passed which will require gmo labeling on foods.  Go, California!  So why can't the rest of the states pass a similar law?  Monsanto and others like them are multi-billion dollar companies that fund powerful lobbies to persuade lawmakers from passing laws that would cost them money.  Wouldn't you love to know how much money gets paid under the table to members of Congress?

The thing with gmo corn is that Monsanto holds the patent and if farmers want to plant the corn, they must buy from Monsanto.  The gmo corn is modified so that corn seed cannot be saved from year to year.  So you see who controls the monopoly.  With so much of our food being processed and using gmo corn as an ingredient, most people consume at least some of it daily.  That's not counting the gmo corn that's used as feed for the animals in our meat supply.  So we get our doses of it directly or indirectly. 

What's really scary is that gmo corn has not been tested enough or long enough to ensure that it is truly safe for human consumption.  Again, money, money, money.  Do some research.  It makes me want to raise everything I eat.  I wish it were that easy or practical.   

October 4, 2012
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Just a little added info here.

If you want to try something but not invest a lot of money....Pine Tree Seeds has packets that are smaller than a lot of other seed places & CHEAP.  Also Crosman Seeds...CHEAP!

 

I'm another trying to avoid all GMOs possible.

I've changed a bunch of our eating to avoid the corn sweeteners put into foods....like dry potato soup mix...why does that need a sweetener?  So no more mixes, I make my own!

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October 5, 2012
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GMO patents are another reason giving farm aid to 3rd world farmers is so difficult. If the farmers DO manage to grow crops with the seeds from not-for-profits, it does the farmers no good to save seeds for the next year. the NGO needs to provide those seeds every year, limiting the farmers' path to independence.

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October 5, 2012
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I, too, buy only Heirloom seeds, but the problem is cross pollination-  

 

I'll still take my chances with Heirloom seeds hoping for the best.  That GMO stuff is scary!

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October 7, 2012
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Has anyone here obtained and planted feed corn harvested from GMO corn? I have a tendency to believe that there is little fact and a great deal of opinion being posted here. I have read the labels on Corn seed that is resistant to European corn borers. and I have not seen anything on the label that says that you may not plant saved seed for your own use. You may not sell the seed to others for planting and much of the seed is F-1 hybrid anyway.

October 8, 2012
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I have a DD hip deep into college botany ... her addition to my knowledge that ALL corn is man-made hybrids is that corn cannot, will not, ever survive in the wild.  It is a crop completely dependent on human gardening which makes sense when you consider how hard it would be for an entire cob of corn to germinate and survive. 

You can save seed from year to year but with F1 hybrids at least half of next year's crop will invariably revert back to one of the parent plants.  Takes a number of years of selective inbreeding to induce a consistent production, aka what we call heirlooms now.  Virtually all of our garden seeds are new hybrids compared to 100 years ago ... GMO plants are modifications that would not likely have happened in nature, such as Round-up Resistant corn and wheat, which is not one of the brighter ideas as, nature willing out, grasses and weeds have hybridized with GMO grain crops and are now introducing resistant weed generations.  Oops.  Sometimes we are too clever for our own good.  I agree with Ross that GMO strains are not available over the counter to mainstream USA ... too much potential for the GMO to hybridize in new directions which patent-owning companies prefer to tightly control for the sake of their almighty buck.  There's no patent threat in saving garden seed from year to year.

October 8, 2012
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I was reading that a lot of corn grown in rural Mexico is very basic corn, basically heirloom type, though that isn't quite as good a term for corn as for most other veggie crops.  Anyway, any US corn that has been shipped and/or is grown there is considered inferior in taste and ability to survive!  

Also, they had to destroy a lot of chickens due to avian flue infection, so they are importing eggs, (apparently eggs are a HUGE part of the average persons diet in most of Mexico, not something I was aware of actually) and U.S. eggs are also not popular, they are only using them in dishes where the poor taste can be covered up with other ingredients!  My own hens would disagree of course, but these are commercial eggs that are probably penned up tight or caged and very tasteless as we who have our own chickens well know!

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