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Bandaged Cheddar
July 25, 2011
1:28 pm
BeckyW
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Has anyone made a bandaged Cheddar?  I finished one up this morning and am anxious to see how it turns out..I did that instead of air drying as suggested in my cheesemaking book but I actually followed the instructions on New England Cheesemaking supply website.  The book doesn't tell you to press again after you bandage so that the bandage presses "into" the cheese.  The book also said to put a light coat of lard on the cheese then apply the bandage.  That confused me because it said later that the mold would form on the bandage and lard and would all come off when you removed the bandage…so I went to the website for clarification.

 

There they said, to dip the bandage in melted lard and squeeze out the excess by pulling up the bandage between your two fingers THEN applying the bandage…then pressing again at full pressure…so that's what I did…we'll see how it turns out…

It's a little more work, but I didn't really like having my cheese sitting out for days on my counter waiting on it to dry.

July 25, 2011
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Have not done this, but hope you will keep us posted on the results.

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July 25, 2011
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I haven't tried that either and would love to hear how it turns out!

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July 25, 2011
5:23 pm
DarleneS
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I remember having bandaged Colby cheese from a small store in my neighborhood. It was delicious.

July 25, 2011
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Leah's Mom
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Well…I hate to be the party pooper….. but you DO need to dry your cheese before bandaging  cry - just as if you were using wax….

You do the drying period exactly as if you were doing either wax or a natural rind before applying the bandage.  There are good reasons for the drying period and, if you'd like, I can write more about it tomorrow but it's late tonight!  sleepy-cow

July 26, 2011
11:45 am
BeckyW
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Yes, please tell me the details on bandaging.  My cheese book did not give good instructions then….as it stated bandaging as an "instead" of air drying method.

July 27, 2011
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BeckyW
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I emailed Jim at New England Cheese about bandaging…here is his reply to my question regarding air drying prior to bandaging.  I think he is making bigger wheels of cheese than I am…I am doing 2 gallons of milk..and going by the pressing times stated in the recipe.

 

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"Becky, my process here is to embed the cloth bandage into the cheese surface. After the pressing is done well (1-2 days). I then apply a bandage to the surface and place it back into the press again to press the bandage into the cheese. This may take another couple of days before it gets removed from the mold. No drying is done of the cheese surface during this period because I do not want a hard rind. I want the bandage to become the cheese surface. I then will dry off for a day before placing in the cave for aging.

Currently I apply 2 layers of bandaging."

   … jim

July 27, 2011
11:50 am
Leah's Mom
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Yes, when the bandage is going to be the surface and you press it into the cheese as he describes, the pre-drying period is not necessary before putting on the bandage.  It does, however, need to be dried after pressing the cloth into the cheese as he states, before putting into the "cave". 

The drying period he states is relative to the level of humidity, etc. where you are working.  His work area may have a lower – or higher – humidity than your work area, so it is still a matter of a drying time based on YOUR kitchen/make room/wherever you put it to dry.  Drying is stil very important in the process.

I am hoping to have a few minutes this evening to write a little bit more about the principle behind (purpose) of drying.  Sorry so long in response!!!  (The "stuff of life" getting in the way…bug-eyed)

July 27, 2011
11:55 am
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Oh…I'm anxious to hear your process Leah.  Whenever you get time, that will be great!

On the wheel I did a couple days ago, I bandaged the cheese, then put the wheel back in the press overnight, took it out, put a second bandage layer on and pressed again…it's definitely "part of the cheese".

July 28, 2011
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JeannieB
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I don't know anything about cheese making,  but I hope some one brings cheese to the retreat.  Would love to buy homemade cheddar!!  Maybe I should ask Suzanne if it is ok to bring items to sell/share.

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July 28, 2011
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Awww…I wish I were able to go to the retreat…that was my "plan"…and you know what happens to well laid "plans"…..life happens…there is no way right now.  If I were able to come though, I'd share some cheese.french

July 28, 2011
11:36 pm
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Frustration reigns…I just wrote a post (over 45 minutes!) and lost it to computer-stupidity before I got it posted.  I'll try to recreate it but…..devil-with-fire

I was saying…..

A purpose of drying the cheese is to begin to develop a rind. In short -

"The rind on a cheese works in two ways:  as a buffer or guard against unwanted bacteria and mold that will compromise the cheese's interior and as a facilitator of the ripening of the cheese with addition of good bacteria and molds"  The Joy of Cheesemaking  Jody M. Farnham and Marc Druart

Depending on the type of cheese you're making, the rind is important in the flavor development in the cheese as it ripens (ages) and can totally change the flavor profile of the end product. 

A few thoughts on cloth bandaging:

-One advantage to using cloth (in my opinion) over a natural rind is that when doing a natural rind you lose more of the outer layer of the cheese to the harder rind.  Some people eat the rind but others cut it off and discard it – and that loses a lot of cheese…especially if you're making 2 gal wheels!!

-Cloth bandaging and natural rinds require a bit more work/tending during the aging process.  For natural rind (again depending on the type of cheese) you need to "wash" (vinigar or salt water) or "brush"them to keep unwanted molds from developing on the outside throughout the aging process.  Depending on the type of cheese, some prefer to let the molds grow.  For cloth bandaged, the mold WILL grow on the cloth, then you peel it off when you're ready to use it.  ("The cloth acts as a "host" for the mold to develop and create the natural rind.")  Some of the descriptive words for the flavor are "earthy, musty, rustic aromas" etc.  A question you have to ask yourself is – will my family want to eat this cheese based on it's outside appearence? bug-eyed

I have read that continuing to add lard to the outside of the cloth can cut down on mold growth.  [Some cheesemakers use only lard on the outside, after the drying time, similar to using wax.]  The mold on the cloth-bound cheese is either an advantage or disadvantage – depending on how you look at it and the flavor you're trying to achieve. 

-Cloth bandaged and natural rind cheeses require a more "controlled environment" in the cheese "cave" or aging area.  The humidity level needs to be monitored and controlled more accurately than when using wax.  If the humidity drops too low, the cheese may crack and expose the interior, changing the flavor and texture, or just produce an overall dry cheese;  If too high, unwanted molds. etc. can grow and, again, the flavor and texture will be different.

Personally, I - as a home cheese-maker who has a full time job and other responsibilities – like to seal my cheeses with wax.  It takes the extra work out of tending rinds, provides a more "forgiving" situation regarding the humidity levels (as the wax coating provides a seal to keep humidity pretty stable inside) , and just takes less tending during the aging process overall. 

Some day when I have more free time on my hands I'd like to try some of the more interesting rinds like cocoa-rubbed, cinnimon-rubbed, etc.  (Maybe I won't wait until I'm not working outside my home for this as I'm really itching to try them…maybe this winter…)

Could you keep us posted on how your cloth-bandaged cheese is coming?  I'd love to see photos taken throughout the aging process (maybe each week?) so we can see how it's looking?  You could post them here or over in the cheesemaking group on Farmbell http://chickensintheroad.com/f…..ing/forum/ …or maybe both places!!!  yes

July 29, 2011
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Thanks so much for your reply Leah…

Yes, I will make an attempt to photograph and upload the pics here…So far, I don't have anything growing on my cheese yet, but it's not been quite a week yet.

I tried the wax, and that was just way too frustrating for me.  It was too thick or too thin.

July 29, 2011
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Leah's Mom
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On the wax – did you dip or brush?  We had a little discussion over on fbr groups about waxing that may be helpful (go down to the last few posts) 

http://chickensintheroad.com/f…..#post-1447

July 29, 2011
2:14 pm
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Well, I tried both…started with brushing…but it was going on too thin…then I decided to dip…I ended up with a thick chunk of uneven wax…

I decided I would just do natural rinds instead after that…but as you mentioned earlier…doing a 2 gallon wheel doesn't leave you much "good" cheese, hence trying the bandaged cheddar.

April 12, 2012
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Please post an update on the bandaged cheddar? I have been planning on doing one and would love to have any tips or pointers.

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