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3:10 pm October 21, 2009
| Mo olelo
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Oh yes Dede is really bad influence.
First it was all the posts with recipes for pressure canning soups, etc. And in her replies to member's questions, she made it all sound so easy to use a pressure canner that this spring we bought a pressure canner. We started discovering even more wonderful things we could can that we couldn't before with only the water bath canner.
Then her forum ID is linked to the Yahoo canning group and from reading through all the posts there… we decided to buy a Roma food mill. And today we are making tomato sauce but the tomatoes are so juicy that we are pouring the sauce through cheese cloth to strain out as much of the juice as we can to make cookdown time of the sauce go faster. We'll be canning lots of juice today too, in addition to the sauce.
But this has led us to decide that after Christmas, we're going to invest in a steam juicer (also talked about extensively on the Yahoo canning group.)
Over the years, I'd canned tomatoes, sauerkraut, fruit, pickles and relishes. It always felt good to see the shelves full of jars and know that we would eat well come winter and on into spring until the new crop of vegetables and fruit were available, either from our own garden or from farmer's markets.
But this year, it feels even better because we've added canned meat, meat sauce, sweet and sour chicken, beans and corn to the shelves.
So a nod of thanks to Dede for being such a “bad” influence.
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4:16 pm October 21, 2009
| wvhomecanner
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ROFLMBO!!! I opened the forums page and saw this title and thought "UH OH OMG" lolol.
You're welcome and welcome to the addiction :)
At least it feeds us WELL, eh? 
~dede~
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"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." ~ The Lorax by Dr. Seuss ~
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9:05 pm October 21, 2009
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I ordered the steam canner yesterday. (I ordered the steam juicer a few weeks ago….)
No, I think dede is a "good" influence — she's even got me (a longtime canner) branching out and trying new things to can.
Thanks!
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10:05 am October 23, 2009
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Mo olelo said:
Then her forum ID is linked to the Yahoo canning group and from reading through all the posts there… we decided to buy a Roma food mill. And today we are making tomato sauce but the tomatoes are so juicy that we are pouring the sauce through cheese cloth to strain out as much of the juice as we can to make cookdown time of the sauce go faster. We'll be canning lots of juice today too, in addition to the sauce.
Try putting a clean towel over the tube where the juice comes out. Mom had a victorio strainer when we were little and she had a towel just for this purpose. You could also try reducing the amount of liquid by heating it for a few hours–it will lessen the number of jars needed as well and cut down on your storage space. No sense canning water.
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My budget plan is NOT getting a cart when I go to the store.
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6:13 pm October 30, 2009
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WV_Hills said:
I ordered the steam canner yesterday. (I ordered the steam juicer a few weeks ago….)
No, I think dede is a “good” influence — she's even got me (a longtime canner) branching out and trying new things to can.
Thanks!
My steam canner came today! (Actually, UPS left it at the neighboring farm or I would have had it yesterday. Thank goodness the lady brought it over to me this afternoon.)
I ordered a stainless-steel model made by Victorio (the strainer people) and it's equiped with a gauge in the knob on the lid to show you when to start timing the processing. It holds 8 quarts instead of 7 when you use it as a steam canner. It will also hold 5 half-gallon jars.
  
It's so shiny you can see the reflection of my bedroom door in the lid. The second photo shows the gauge (although it's not a very good shot of it.)
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7:40 pm October 30, 2009
| CindyP
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Shiny and pretty! What are you canning first?????!!!!!???
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8:15 pm October 30, 2009
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CindyP said:
Shiny and pretty! What are you canning first?????!!!!!???
Well, I have five bushels+ of apples, and two bushels of pears in the root cellar — time to get started making apple butter, caramel apple jam, cinnamon apples, pear butter…. for next year's farmers' market. The house will smell wonderful! We had almost summer-like weather today so instead of canning I was outside in the sunshine. I'll save the canning for days when the house needs a little extra warmth, and it's too nasty to be outside. After the apples, and the pears, then there are the beets…
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9:34 pm October 30, 2009
| wvhomecanner
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Oh, it IS pretty LOL. Can't wait to hear what you think. This is one 'toy' haven't bought (yet).
Dede
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7:58 am October 31, 2009
| Suzanne McMinn
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What is different/better about a steam canner?
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9:20 am October 31, 2009
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Suzanne said:
What is different/better about a steam canner?
When you use a waterbath canner you are dealing with a pot full of glass jars, full to the brim, and a pot full of water deep enough to cover them. HEAVY! and dangerous if you manage to spill the hot water on the floor. The steam canner looks like a waterbath canner — but upside down. The smaller "lid" is on the bottom, holding the jars and only a few inches of water. The "pot" fits over the jars onto the "lid" and holds in the steam while the jars process. Less water, lighter pot. It will only work on things you would normally can in a waterbath canner — it is NOT A PRESSURE CANNER! You can turn the pot upside down (rightside up?) and use it as a regular waterbath canner, too.
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1:34 pm November 3, 2009
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Am very anxious to hear about your experience with this new gadget, Kathy. I'm very seriously considering one just for the safety factor – mostly the weight issue. These old wrists and hands can't deal with the heavy pots of water any more, so trekking smaller pots of water to the stove to fill the kettles is a nuisance, but getting rid of the hot water could be flat out dangerous! Or just cause the whole process to come to a stand still waiting for water to cool.
Another idea might be one of those commercial chef's single burner hot plates. Haven't priced any and will look for some very soon. Might be nice to have another one or two cooking surfaces away from the stove to keep simmering water. The old hotplates we have don't seem to have enough oomph to heat hot enough fast enough to be much use for canning.
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Anulos qui animum ostendunt omnes gestemus!
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1:49 pm November 3, 2009
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You are going to love this one…
I've looked at steam canners for years and considered buying one. They all looked like the ones I described above. I put my new canner on the shelf and took a second look at it — you use this one with the deep pot on the bottom whether you are doing the waterbath or the steam canning route. The lid fits much more tightly than my enamel canning kettle, and therefore holds the steam in the pot which the enamel kettle can't. The only differences in the way you use this one? You use the canning rack in the bottom with one side up for water bath, and upside down for steam canning. You also cover the jars with water for the water bath method (just like always) but use only a few inches of water for the steam canning route. I'm cooking down pears for pear butter right now and I'll try out the new canner when it's ready for canning. I'll let you know how it comes out.
(And yes — all that hot water really scares me. If I have to I use a saucepan to dip the hot water out into the sink until the pot is light enough for me to lift.)
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10:48 pm November 5, 2009
| wvhomecanner
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This seems like the best place to post this 
Posted on Canning2 – a very good price on a stainless steel steam juicer 
http://tinyurl.com/y9wodqb
Dede
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10:50 pm November 5, 2009
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Dede, you are an enabler! LOL!
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6:42 am November 6, 2009
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Jayne said:
Dede, you are an enabler! LOL!
Yes, I resemble that remark   
<snicker>
Dede
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7:57 am November 6, 2009
| CindyP
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But a very good enabler!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!! I printed off that page and stapling to my christmas list, that only has steam juicer on it in red!
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9:57 am November 6, 2009
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wvhomecanner said:
This seems like the best place to post this 
Posted on Canning2 – a very good price on a stainless steel steam juicer 
http://tinyurl.com/y9wodqb
Dede
That's exactly what I bought! I used it for the first time yesterday with the pears I'm preparing for pear butter (and now maybe pear honey?) I ended up with soft pears, already thickened without simmering for hours, and almost a gallon of pear nectar!
My only thought — when I simmer fruit (pears, apples…) to evaporate the juice it concentrates the flavor. I wonder how different the taste will be without the concentrated juice in the mix.
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1:09 pm November 6, 2009
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CindyP said:
But a very good enabler!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!! I printed off that page and stapling to my christmas list, that only has steam juicer on it in red!
You might want to drop that in Santa's lap ASAP while the deal is good :)
Just sayin'….. 
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1:12 pm November 6, 2009
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WV_Hills said:
My only thought — when I simmer fruit (pears, apples…) to evaporate the juice it concentrates the flavor. I wonder how different the taste will be without the concentrated juice in the mix.
I wouldn't think there would be much if any difference – I know that the juice extracted via the steam juicer is often too intense to drink without diluting. Adding some of the extracted juice back to get the flavor you want is what many do to the pulp.
dede
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6:40 pm November 6, 2009
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wvhomecanner said:
WV_Hills said:
My only thought — when I simmer fruit (pears, apples…) to evaporate the juice it concentrates the flavor. I wonder how different the taste will be without the concentrated juice in the mix.
I wouldn't think there would be much if any difference – I know that the juice extracted via the steam juicer is often too intense to drink without diluting. Adding some of the extracted juice back to get the flavor you want is what many do to the pulp.
dede
I put the butters I make (apple, pear, pumpkin…) in an open roasting pan, into the oven, and bake on low – 225/250 degrees – until they thicken. If I start with 4" in the pan I simmer it until there are 2" left. This time I'm simmering the pulp after extracting most of the juice. I'll let you know how the pear butter made by evaporation compares to pear butter made after extracting the juice with the steam juicer. If there isn't any real taste difference the steam juicer should reduce the simmer time by half or more since there won't be as much liquid left in the pulp to evaporate.
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