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Over the past few days in preparing to make Suzanne's Grandmother bread I read all the blog posts, comments and forum topics about making it. Several posters mentioned ending up with a doughy soup or that their dough required more flour than the recipe called for.
In another forum post here I mentioned how many years ago when I tried to make yeast bread I encountered so many problems I ended up asking a professional baker what was the issue because as an accomplished cook I had no trouble baking biscuits, made my own pie crusts, etc, but anything with yeast went south. She mentioned our region's humidity (coastal NC). So I ended up getting a bread machine and that worked though I wasn't happy with the crust issue.
When I moved to the NC/VA mountains 10 years ago, miraculously I could make yeast bread without a bread machine! I attributed it to less humidity and the altitude adjustment (went from sea level to 3000ft). The dough was easier to work with and I could actually follow recipes without too much variation, i.e., constantly adjusting moisture and flour.
I'm back on the coast of NC for the next few months while I get started in nursing school, and desperately missing my mountain yeast breads! So yesterday I made Grandmother Bread. Our humidity hit 93% yesterday, and with just a few adjustments I still succeeded!!
I was so pleased with the size, softness, and crumb. The softness, while not being as soft as store bought white bread which I did not want or expect, is a "sturdy" softness, perfect for making sandwiches! My next ventures will be in seeing how much white whole wheat flour I can add without compromising that "sturdy" softness.
I made the one loaf recipe as my Chicago Metallic bread pans are in storage and I only had the rectangular bread pan from my bread baker to use (fingers crossed I can get back home and get my bread pans outta storage now that I've found a successful recipe, thanks Suzanne!).
To work with the dough in this humidity, I kept back 1/2 cup of the water, and used the full 3 1/2 cups flour. I had to add additional flour tablespoon by tablespoon, until I ended up with a dough that was just barely sticky (occasionally the dough got too tough and I ended up adding 1/4 cup, tablespoon by tablespoon, of the reserved water too). In total I used almost 4 1/2 cups of flour. It was a compromise in taste and dough performance to reach a happy medium of being able to knead the dough without adding excessive flour.
First rise took about 1 1/2 hours, second rise took only 40 minutes. I also had to adjust the baking temp & length. After 30 min at 350º which may or may not be the oven, I had to bump the temp to 375º and bake an extra 10 min.
So if you've been intimidated about baking yeast bread in high humidity areas, I urge you to try again! I'm soo thrilled to be eating my sandwich today on my own home baked bread. Now if there were just a mountain outside my kitchen window…
I have had a problem with bread ever since I moved to the mountains. I am about 2,500 feet, which is not that high and should not be a problem. I have tried the Grandmother bread many times, and I always ended up with wads of gummy dough. I have checked my oven, and the temp is correct. So, I began playing around. I now have figured out that I need to lower the temp about 20 degrees and bake for five or ten minutes longer. I made a wonderful bread with Bob's 10 grain cereal yesterday. Today I will try Grandmother bread again.
Your slicing is so perfect!
Kathie
Thanks, Suzanne! Hopefully the tips will help in FL!
Kathie, I've always wondered if sometimes problems with yeast bread might possibly be due to water softness/hardness, which could explain why yeast breads succeeded for me in the mtns; I had soft water up there, but hard water everywhere I've lived down here (may have had nothing to do with humidity!). Who knows…definitely a YMMV thing!
As far as slicing, I use an electric knife, go slow, & use an old farrier trick (when driving nails in a foot, you don't look at the nail head you're hitting but where you want that nail to exit the side of the foot…same with slicing bread, I don't look at where I'm slicing, but at the bottom of the bread where I want the slice to end up. ; )) Otherwise my slices look like carnage, better suited for bread pudding ; ))
Let us know how your bread turns out today!
11:20 pm
January 17, 2011
OfflineHi! Welcome to the forum. I usually would get online everyday,but my hubby has been sick and I've been busy with him. Is'nt homemade Grandma's bread the best? I hate to buy bread in our local store because it is so expensive and is not as good as this bread. I always tell my friends it is the simple things in life that my husband and I appreciate !
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