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8:07 am February 18, 2010
| CindyP
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I think we need a topic!!!!
Pete has hinted at in several different topics throughout the past year of grinding grains……the last being, grinding your own cornmeal out of popcorn!
So, I need some guidance……because I can sooo see myself doing this!
What type/kind of grinders do I need to be looking at? What else can I grind to use in my kitchen?
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9:20 am February 18, 2010
| CindyP
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And………has anyone ever used a hand cranking, manual one?
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9:44 am February 18, 2010
| Joyce
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Sorry have not tried a manual mill, our grinder is a Lee Household Mill we got in 1971 and it is still going strong. We are careful when cleaning it as if the stone should get broken I don't know if it could be replaced as I don't think these mills are made anymore. The grain is poured into the plastic container on the top, there is a slide bar to adjust how fine or coarse you want your flour, and the flour falls into the special dust proof flannel bag underneath. There is a store called Lehman's Hardware that has a lot of mills (I meant to post the link but got muddled trying to post the picture and lost the link) I hope to goodness the picture is O.K. because I couldn't find the 500 pixels thingee. Anyway ourmill makes the best cornmeal ever from our home grown field corn. I figure on the smaller cheaper mills you would likely have to sift the flour after grinding. However for anyone who feeds chickens or the birds it wouldn't be a waste.
 
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10:08 am February 18, 2010
| Pete
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Home ground flours and meals just TASTE so much better! Same principle as home made cakes and pies, our lovely canned fruits and veggies, and all those other things we prefer getting from our own gardens and barnyards.
We had a very minimal discussion last year here: http://suzannemcminn.com/forum…..mp;ret=all
It didn't go very far! I still use my VitaMix as primary grinder but have a back up hand grinder as well.
The reason I mentioned using popcorn for corn meal is that frequently it can be ground using the same stone or blade as is used for grinding wheat. And popcorn is easily available in every market where bulk sweet corn kernels may not be.
Using the same blade cuts down on the time of changing blades for different projects.
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10:19 am February 18, 2010
| CindyP
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I'm sorry, I looked, because I thought we had discussed this!
How easy does the manual grinder work, Pete? I've been researching grinders this morning, and I must say they are NOT cheap! But the manual ones seem to be. I'm wondering how much of a work out on my shoulder it would be?
And the grain that is ground…….I'm picturing oats or wheat that I would have fed as grain to animals. The same? or something entirely different?
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10:47 am February 18, 2010
| Pete
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Same principle, same machine for grinding for both human and animal consumption, at least among the work horse models.
When searching, it might help to look for "grain mills." The Lehman's link to the second page seems to be broken for the time being, but their product list for grain mills is here: http://www.lehmans.com/cgi-bin…..e_number=1
My hand grinder looks much like that Daimant model. (It didn't cost nearly that much!) Generally, the bigger the circle your arm makes in turning that wheel the less stress there is on the body.
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1:56 pm February 18, 2010
| wvhomecanner
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A very good place to ask questions about grain grinding is a Yahoo group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/…..d-storage/
Lots of folks there with long term experience – they know where to buy the best mills, which not to buy, etc.
David Bruce (Canning2) and I are co-owners of this group – we inherited it when a dear efriend passed away last May. I haven't been active on there for some time, but highly recommend the knowledge base there that includes a large number of LDS who live self-reliance every day.
HTH
Dede
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8:28 am February 19, 2010
| CindyP
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How much flour do you get from the grain? I wouldn't think it would be pound for pound…….. ???
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8:46 am February 19, 2010
| Pete
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I dunno. I usually just grind a few cups at a time, keeping any excess for the project of the day in the refrigerator.
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6:32 pm March 14, 2010
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We didn't like our hand crank mill. It took a lot of time to get the flour that we needed, and it seemed to stay quite coarse. We also learned that with stone ground flour (vs. steel ground), the stone lets go of small pieces of aluminum that gets into the flour. We also learned that with grinding between two objects creates heat that will lesson the nutritional value in your finished product. We also ended up sifting stuff out of it. We opted for a WonderMill instead (uses something called microburst technology, no friction there), and retired our hand cranked one to the barn for doing the chop fresh for our cow. We are only using the steel plates, and so end up with cracked barley for her. We think that fresh ground is better for her and the milk too.
The hand cranking does build good muscles in the arms.
We find with our electric mill, that 8 cups of grain equals 12 c. of fine flour.
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7:53 pm March 14, 2010
| Pete
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Where was the aluminum coming from, LK?
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7:42 am March 15, 2010
| Angela P
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9:25 am March 15, 2010
| CindyP
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Like you said, major investment. I've had to prioritize my major investments , but they're ticking off the list one by one! 
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10:36 am March 15, 2010
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I believe that aluminum is one of the binding agents for the stone. We had read somewhere about this happening (the stones will wear some), and although we couldn't see any flecks, it made us very uncomfortable using it.
We were using a Corona corn mill.
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11:20 am March 15, 2010
| Pete
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Ah, so it isn't really stone, but a composite material of some sort. Don't believe I'd like that either!
What I use routinely is like a blender on steroids with a steel blade and a polycarbonate bowl. The back up unit has a steel blade and cast iron housing. In both, all the moving parts are steel.
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11:49 am March 15, 2010
| juststartn
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We have a Nutrimill. Love it.
We do have a corona out in the shop (I will have to let DH know about the aluminum). We know it is a cheaper version, and we'd love to have one of the larger, more expensive, ones…but that will have to wait for now, unfortunately!
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11:59 am March 15, 2010
| Pete
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Even so, you know what is in the grain that you grind yourself, as opposed to having no idea what all is in that sack of flour you would otherwise purchase. No system is perfect, right?
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