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Home rendered lard question!!!
December 22, 2010
7:07 pm
laurajenkins
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I have stumbled about 2 five gallon buckets of glorious hog fat for FREEEE!   I want to do the rendering in a electric roaster to get through it quicker.   Has anyone used an electric roaster for this before.    Is this really going to stink us out of the house?   Should I do it in the garage?   I used to help my mom do this when I was very little.  so  30 plus years ago, so I don't remember the smell.  Rumor has it that it is a smelly process.   My mom has been gone for 10 yrs. Thanks for any light you can shed on this process.  

Thanks

Laura

December 22, 2010
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Cut the fat into dice not more that an inch. Place them in  roasting pans in your regular oven at about 350 degrees F.  It will smell like roast pork. You will want the rendered fat to be free of bubbles which will indicate that there is no water left in the melted fat. The presence of water will accelerate the spoilage of the lard, it must be dry. The tissue will be lightly browned and very shriveled. This is call cracklins. Remove them with a slotted spoon while they are still hot. BE CAREFUL! Those are good to use in cracklin biscuits ( you don't have a cholesterol problem) Allow the lard to cool a bit and pour into tubs. You can't rush the project. Make some pie crust.  If you have different types of fat i.e. organ fat versus subcutanious fat render them separately. They will have different melting temperatures and textures.

 

Edit to add: Cut some squares with the skin attached and salt them for salt pork for you baked beans. salt pork recipe on line.

December 22, 2010
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I would think you could use your electric roaster….it works in the crockpot and the oven.  I don't mind the smell at all, it smells like pork cooking.

I grind mine in a meat grinder (make sure it's cold).  Easier than cutting up into chunks especially when you're doing lots of it!  You can freeze the fat to render later also.  2 5-gallon buckets will make A LOT of lard!  I got 15 1/2 quarts of lard from 30 pounds of fat…and I'm sure 30 pounds wouldn't fill up a 5-gallon bucket!

 

Happy rendering!

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December 22, 2010
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Five gallons of water will weigh about forty pounds so unless the pails are firmly packed there is probably between fifty and seventy-five pounds of fat involved here which is why I suggested that some be cured as salt pork. .

December 22, 2010
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I justed weighed it and it weighs about 65 lbs.  I'm not sure I can make salt pork, but once I get into the heart of this mess I will figure it out.  I think that some of it has some meat on it.  I just bought some smoky sea salt maybe I could use that.   Thanks for  the input.  I will but up early in the morning with my meat grinder, grinding frozen fat.  I can already smell my house, if smells like a pork roast cooking.  I will let you know how it turns out.

Thanks again.

December 23, 2010
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The smokey salt may make it a bit like bacon but with a little lean in it that should be alright. Please check on line for the amount of salt to use so that you don't over salt the product.  Rendering fat is a slow process because you don't want to scorch anything and get a burnt bitter taste. Where you are living your back porch may be a very large refrigerator at this time of the year. Right now i have 2 gallons of goose stock in a pot on the porch.

December 23, 2010
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laura, I hope you have found the many topics in which rendering lard has been discussed.  There are many people here who have done it, by many different methods.

I still haven't tried it myself, but kinda plan to use the method which adds water in the beginning, and the water boils off.  It just sounds safer for me for my first try.  Others have had great success without adding the water, so don't do it that way unless it makes sense to you in your circumstances.  (For me, with the arthritic hands, adding the water makes sense because it slows the process a bit, which sounds very good to me for that first attempt.  After getting the method down, I really don't intend to do it that way forever.)

I do plan to render some lard in the oven just to get a couple of reclaimed cast iron Dutch ovens seasoned!  Maybe one on the stove top and one in the oven.   

All to say, I don't know why using a big roaster wouldn't work!  Should work very much like using the crock pot. 

Does the idea of experimenting with a small batch (done in something else) appeal to you, just to find out if the smell would be an issue at your house?  All our homes are built so differently, and our noses too, that it really is impiossible for any of us to say whether the aroma would be too much at your house.  I had sort of planned to give it a try with a small batch, then wait until Spring to finish it all outside somewhere if the smell was more than I wanted to deal with in the house

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December 23, 2010
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I just went on a mini search about rendering lard and found this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lard

Wet or dry rendering are both valid methods for the job and they yield somewhat different results.

December 23, 2010
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Ross, I was referring to the many topics here on this forum that rendering lard has been discussed, and Suzanne's instructions for doing it:

http://chickensintheroad.com/f…..mp;ret=all

http://chickensintheroad.com/f…..mp;ret=all

http://chickensintheroad.com/f…..mp;ret=all

and

http://chickensintheroad.com/c…..-own-lard/

There are lots of links in those discussions.  Plus it's kind of funny going back, reading the learning experiences!  That's sort of the way it happens around here – someone comes up with an idea, and everyone learns how to do it together, with the help of our experineced friends!  Good stuff.  yes

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December 23, 2010
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Pete , Thank you for those links. I haven't bought shortening in fifteen or twenty years. I use rendered pork fat or poultry fat for all of my baking.

I found that if I leave a jar of melted lard out at room temperature it stratifies with the harder components settling to the bottom of the jar and a nice clear oil is left on top.

December 23, 2010
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Laura, what a score! Do your homework, you'll have plenty of fat for the winter, and spring and summer. Whichever method you choose (with that much fat you can try them all) pick the one that is easiest for you to handle. You may only be doing this once, so try to have fun.

Like Ross, I too have a jar of rendered fat sitting on my stovetop. That's where the 'Grease Can' has always been, since I was a child. That's where Grandma kept it too. You'd fry bacon and pour the grease off, into the can. Self sealing and ready for any other purpose.

Now I read on one of the links that it should be refrigerated. Where did that come from? Who has refrigerator space for five gallons of lard? How are you 'spose to use it, if it's stone cold?

I'm an immediate person. Don't want to wait for the butter to warm up for spreading onto the toast, so it's in a covered dish on the counter (like at grandmas' house).

If the urge hits for a pie, Now is when I want to put it together, Not after the lard warms up.

Nearly fifty years ago (lord) I remember one time, having to toss the remainder of the lard can, because it had 'gone south'. We were taught to sniff it, before using it on the pancake griddle. That morning Daddy had pancakes via crisco shortening.

Having read the WIKI link (thanks Ross) I found out that water/moisture was the culprit. And a centrifuge is sometimes use to extract it, by the industry. Since I don't own one of those, the non-water cooking method will be my choice when rendering lard.

Thanks for all the info and links–we're getting smarter by the moment.

December 23, 2010
6:11 pm
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I use rendered poultry fat for most of my pastry. it is liquid at room temps so I keep it in the fridge and my flour for pastry in the freezer. Working very quickly I blend the flour and fat before the fat has time to start melting. That isn't  a problem with lard. The can of bacon fat is the supply for the fat in muffins and for greasing the pans with a smal paint brush.

Crisco will also go south after a time.

What ever method you try for rendering don't use a directly on the stove top burner approach. You don't need a gallon of hot grease catching fire. I rather like the crock pot approach. Just a nice long gentle process with a small risk of burns. I often skim with a large soup ladle .

December 23, 2010
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Let's not get confused between short and long term storage.  Many of us keep butter, lard, whatever out for immediate use, but keep all our fats in long term storage either in the freezer or refrigerator to extend the time they will remain wholesome.  In our household, we just take a block of butter from the freezer when we put the last of the the previous block out for use.  We use enough butter to leave out a stick, more or less, on the counter.  Same principle applies to bacon grease or any other fat.  It's OK to leave some (your use pattern determines what "some" is) out at room temp, but it will spoil so the bulk should be kept refrigerated or frozen.

Also, during the heat of the summer, we keep less out at room temp because it just isn't safe to do otherwise.  Most commercially available fats do contain preservatives which keep them "fresh" longer than what we make at home, so that should also be considered.

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December 23, 2010
8:18 pm
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Well  I have been in this lard project for 10 hours.   I did chose to use my roaster with about 2 cups of water for 1 bucket of fat.  Only I forgot to keep the cover off and wasn't letting the moisture out…..oops.   Now its really cooking down.  The smell is just like making a pork roast.  I can't wait for the crackling's.  I have set aside some of the meater pieces to make some salt pork like suggested.  I'm so glad I'm in MN.  I have a huge freezer right now.    Ross,  I'm not sure how much what ratio of salt to pork I should you.  Everything I have found doesn't really give the pounds of pork.  Could you tell me how you have made it.

Thanks

December 23, 2010
10:41 pm
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Laura I will see what I can find.

 

Edit at 11:51 to add: try this link. From all that i can find forsalt pork you can hardly use too much salt but you must keep it quite cool. Some references indicate that the pieces of back fat were packed into wooden tubs of salt.

http://www.economist.com/node/8345876

December 24, 2010
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I have also found this. It is an interesting read even if you never have occassion to cut up and cure an entire pig. http://www.motherearthnews.com…..spx?page=1

December 24, 2010
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Perhaps this site is of use.  I am wondering if the 'fridge adaptation for curing meats could be used to make an inexpensive version of a cheese cave 'fridge, too.

http://mattikaarts.com/blog/ch…..the-setup/

 

p.s.  Food preservation, foraging and homesteading kind of stuff just fascinates me.  I guess I'm easily amused?

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December 24, 2010
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Helen , the article is full of good ideas. There is some disagreement with Mortons concerning the proper curing temperatures. But the source for an old refrigerator might be your local appliance store. They will haul away your old fridge when you buy a new one. I often encounter families that are remodeling their kitchen and changing perfectly good appliances for more stylish ones.

December 24, 2010
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I'm getting more and more interested in the possibilities that obtaining a couple of used 'fridges could open up to me, although I'm actually most interested in the kinds of food preservation methods like drying, salting, fermenting, cheesemaking, etc. that don't require electricity.  If I could, I would love to have a spring house like they had on the farm when I was a kid.  I know that the very old methods of food preservation are not without very real risks, but I also feel a real need not only know more about them in the abstract but to practice them, too.  It seems to me that these "lost arts" are being revived all over the world, and that's a good thing happy-flower 

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September 25, 2011
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I just bought leaf lard at the local farmer's market from Caw Caw Creek here in SC.  I am so excited!!!  I get to render me some lard, woohoo!!!  Ok, where's that cook pot…LOL!

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