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4:05 pm November 21, 2009
| IowaDeb
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Cool! Now I must have a wooden bread bowl and a butter bell to go with it
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Sometimes,I live in my own little world, but it's okay because they know me here.
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10:36 pm November 21, 2009
| CATRAY44
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I have a big wooden bowl that was my grandma's… I wonder if it is a bread bowl? I am really intrigued! What a neat thread!
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5:44 pm November 22, 2009
| CindyP
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Last year, I had found a site where they guy makes the dough bowl like grandma used to use (I'm still determined that John is going to make me one!)…….I finally found it again! He sells them, but I can't find the $$$, just contact info.
Here's where he shows how he starts with a tree and it becomes a bowl…pretty amazing work!
http://www.doughbowlmaker.com/…..20Bowl.htm
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“Learn all you can from the mistakes of others. You won’t have time to make them all yourself.” ― Alfred Sheinwold
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5:52 pm November 22, 2009
| Helen
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Thankyou so much for that link. I'm going to save up and get myself one of those beautiful bowls. I hope he can make one that can hold 3 loaves worth of dough at a time!
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George Orwell – 1984
- Orthodoxy means not thinking–not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness.
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6:06 pm November 22, 2009
| CindyP
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Did you find how much he charged for them?
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“Learn all you can from the mistakes of others. You won’t have time to make them all yourself.” ― Alfred Sheinwold
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6:44 pm November 22, 2009
| Helen
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By clicking around on some of his pages…I sort of found the prices by accident. It might have been on the "working bowls pg 1"…I think…but the ones I saw ran about $136.00. Of course, they vary in price. But a hand-hewn bread bowl…WOW!
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George Orwell – 1984
- Orthodoxy means not thinking–not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness.
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7:02 pm November 22, 2009
| CindyP
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hmmmm……I guess I really need to get John on that then!! 
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“Learn all you can from the mistakes of others. You won’t have time to make them all yourself.” ― Alfred Sheinwold
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7:10 pm November 22, 2009
| CATRAY44
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I did a little looking and my bowl from Grandma (she used to call it a butter bowl) is a bread bowl! I also went on ebay and bought 2 by Munising for 19 dollars…. I am so excited! (My grandma's has a small crack and I do not want to make it worse, so will use hers for raising and one of these for kneading.) Here is another one, if anyone is intersted… They are going for some really good prices on there…
http://cgi.ebay.com/VIN-ANTIQU…..3ca775e409
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8:03 pm November 22, 2009
| Farmgirl wannabe
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If these bowls are used for mixing, kneading and rising…do you have to clean them out in between steps?
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8:08 pm November 22, 2009
| BuckeyeGirl
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I wouldn't, maybe a wipe out before the last rise is all. It might depend on how sticky the dough was of course, but mostly you can use the dough to gather up most everything I'd think.
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8:09 pm November 22, 2009
| Debnfla3
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I don't clean them out. If it is really doughy when I want it to rise I wipe it out with a paper towel and then put a little olive oil in it to grease my dough up so it won't stick to the plastic wrap I put on top. I don't ever wash my wood bowls because I want the yeast to seep into the wood and make all other doughs even MORE better than the last. That is what makes the wood dough bowls so awesome to me.
Deb
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8:43 pm November 22, 2009
| Farmgirl wannabe
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Thanks! Everyone is so helpful, I am excited to have access to this wealth of information.
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8:45 pm November 22, 2009
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One more question, I had always heard that the rising bowl should have steep sides so the dough would rise tall before you punch it down. The pictured bowls appeared fairly shallow, any comments about that?
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8:59 pm November 22, 2009
| CindyP
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I've always used a more shallow bowl…….because that's what mom always did! So I'm not sure on the tall bowl thing, but I do know it works with a shallow bowl 
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7:50 am November 23, 2009
| Debnfla3
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My bowls are not tall. But I think the reason some people say a tall bowl is so they can keep track of the dough to make sure it has doubled more easily. If the dough doubles width wise some may find that hard to keep track of the dough. I use all kind of bowls when letting dough rise and don't have a bit of trouble keeping a watch on rising dough and judging the growth of it.
Punching dough down is just releasing the gas that has built up in it. Sometimes I take the sides of the dough, pull it up and fold it over its self instead of punching it down in the middle. I degas the dough the folding way for baggettes and italian breads.
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9:22 am November 23, 2009
| Pete
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Hmmm. Interesting discussion, indeed!
I cannot imagine that the shape of the bowl would have any impact on what is happening to the dough. The action is happening within the dough itself, and will happen if it is on a flat surface or an upright tube! That said, the material from which the bowl is made certainly can impact how the dough rises, having to do with all that heat conductivity stuff.
Don't you imagine that the wood bowls were shaped the way they were based on the size of the tree from which they were carved? And maybe how much of that tree the guy cutting it was willing to give up for a kitchen bowl?
The only bread bowl I remember in our family was the ceramic biscuit bowl that stayed beneath the chute of the flour bin of Grandmother's hoosier cabinet.
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9:39 am November 23, 2009
| Debnfla3
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I agree, the shape of the bowl has nothing to do with dough rising. I think that the shape of the bowl is ONLY for the dough maker! Most of the time I put my dough bowl in the microwave above my stove because it is draft free and is always warmish when I leave the light on that shines from the bottom of the micro onto the stove top.
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5:47 pm November 24, 2009
| CATRAY44
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Started some sourdough starter… getting ready for my dough bowl!
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8:51 pm July 13, 2010
| doughbowlmaker
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Pete said:
Hmmm. Interesting discussion, indeed!
I cannot imagine that the shape of the bowl would have any impact on what is happening to the dough. The action is happening within the dough itself, and will happen if it is on a flat surface or an upright tube! That said, the material from which the bowl is made certainly can impact how the dough rises, having to do with all that heat conductivity stuff.
Don't you imagine that the wood bowls were shaped the way they were based on the size of the tree from which they were carved? And maybe how much of that tree the guy cutting it was willing to give up for a kitchen bowl?
The only bread bowl I remember in our family was the ceramic biscuit bowl that stayed beneath the chute of the flour bin of Grandmother's hoosier cabinet.
The size/shape of the doughbowl had more to do with the tool being used than it did with "the amount of wood that they wanted to give up,etc".
The tool used for making a bowl (an adze) has a built in radius (curve) and it's really hard to make a bowl smaller than the tools curve.
Almost all of the old bowls from Grandma's day were made of a blank (block) that was 3 1/2 " deep. By having a slant to the walls – they looked much deeper than that and some were, but generally – most were 3 1/2 or less.
As for the insulation and its effect on the dough — the cheapest bowl you can find will work just as well as the most expensive you can find. I've made well over a thousand of them and have lost a few sales by being honest about this fact. Wood (any wood) is a natural insulator and it will reflect the small amount of heat that yeast working creates back into the dough and this increases the gasses that the yeast produce , causing the dough to rise more.
The only difference in price is due to some are handmade – some made by machinery, a bunch are imported and a few made here. and the difference in the price is mostly hinged on quality and beauty.
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10:34 pm July 13, 2010
| Miss Judy
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Doughbowlmaker,What beautiful bowls! The work of a true artist. Oh my, I haven't made bread on a regular basis for years but…I may start again…just so I can touch the satiny smoothness of one of those bowls. What a talent. You talked about how busy you are (on your site), I hope you still enjoy your craft. You said something about a "jack of all trades, master of none" You are mistaken! You are a master craftsman!
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