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7:56 pm August 15, 2009
| Pete
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One theory put forth for that sort of breakage is a tap on the glass at the exact right (or wrong) temperature. That is why some folks make sure the canner is loaded each processing session. At least that keeps the jars from moving very far before they hit another jar.
I'm not completely sold on that solution because if you put jars of water in to fill in the spaces, they would not process in exactly the same way as whatever it is that you are canning. Still, it has to be better than leaving empty spaces and all that area for jars bouncing around inside the canner.
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8:40 pm August 15, 2009
| wvhomecanner
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I can about 400 jars a year and have only had a few break and I don't always can a full load, so I can't say that theory works for me either LOL.
Mine usually break the bottoms of the jar right off in a clean snap. Argghh.
I have been hearing more complaints about newer jars breaking though, and that is not good.
There are many reasons jars break and tempering of the glass seems to be less consistent in new ones maybe. In older jars can be a spot where a metal utensil scored the glass or some other reason a weak spot was created.
It is a mess whenever it happens for sure. Pain in the patoot :)
And I especially hate losing even one jar of something good I just put in there!
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"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." ~ The Lorax by Dr. Seuss ~
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12:36 am August 16, 2009
| chickypez
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Yeah, it wasn't fun to clean up. I was more upset, though, about the whole quart of yummy chicken soup that we lost!
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1:02 am August 16, 2009
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I just dont think that I will ever get over my fear of pressure cookers. I will never forget the sound of the explosion and my mamas scream and running in to the kitchen and seeing pinto beans all over every square inch of the kitchen and dining room. And burnt beans can smell pretty bad. Then they one by one fell from the ceiling. It was raining pintos.
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1:14 pm August 16, 2009
| Suzanne McMinn
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Wow. What happened? Did she open the pressure cooker too soon after it was finished?
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5:17 pm August 16, 2009
| wvhomecanner
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Most horror stories about pressure cookers (which folks transfer to include pressure Canners) are about not following directions and warnings. My grandmother had my mother terrified of pressure cookers because something like what Georgia described happened. Once it was sourdough bread dough left to rise with the lid partly locked down. They scraped dough off the ceilings forever. And also a pot of split pea soup – way too much in the pot and the vent clogged and kerpow! Big green mess everywhere. Other times it's someone in a hurry and they decide flipping the weight off right as they turned the burner off is smart LOL.
Luckily my other grandmother used hers correctly and my Dad learned from her and he had my Mother pressure cooking many yummy things by the time I was old enough to pay attention.
Pot Roast was the best! No, maybe it was scalloped potatoes…. or corned beef and cabbage…. LOL
Dede
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5:20 pm August 16, 2009
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I have no idea what it was caused by, she certainly knew how to do it. I heard that jiggle thingy at almost every meal she cooked. Only happened once in her 60 years of using it, but it was once enough for me.
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6:16 pm August 16, 2009
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A pressure cooker should have a small, hard rubber plug in the lid. If the pressure builds too high, the plug should blow releasing the pressure. Of course whatever was in the cooker usually comes out in a fine spray — all over the kitchen, but it's not like the metal lid blows off if it's fully closed. Things like beans and pea soup or pasta are usually the culprits when a vent clogs. They expand as they cook, and the starch forms a paste than can plug the vent quite easily. If you read the book that comes with the cooker they give really good advice about how, and more importantly sometimes, WHAT to cook in a pressure cooker.
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5:47 pm August 22, 2009
| LisaAJB
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I don't know how to can. I don't have any canning supplies. But as all 50 of my roma tomato seeds germinated this year, (it was an experiment to see if I could preserve seeds from the plants I had last year. I didn't think it would work) I have some preserving to do. I've been making large batches of salsa (which don't need preserving because fresh salsa is so yummy we eat it before it goes bad) and I made a large pot of tomato sauce that I put in plastic containers and froze. I'm thinking about pureying 1/2 of the next batch and chopping thick chunks with the other 1/2 to freeze. Tomatoes in tomato sauce? Sounds like something I'd put in soups and chili. My mother-in-law cans salsa and chunks of tomatoes for chili, but I'm not sure that I have the patience for that. Does anyone else have any good/ easy ideas for preserving tomatoes?
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10:08 am August 23, 2009
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Blanch, peel, freeze in freezer bags. That is the extent of my canning.
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11:02 am August 23, 2009
| Suzanne McMinn
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I'm canning sweet pickle relish today!
Lisa, canning is easy and you can hot water bath tomatoes (though it takes a long time in a hot water bath, but still! I love tomatoes canned better than any other way of preserving them). I have a post about how to can using a hot water bath:
http://suzannemcminn.com/blog/…..th-method/
Once you start canning, you'll love it!
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11:04 am August 23, 2009
| Suzanne McMinn
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I pressure can tomatoes now, by the way, just because it's so much faster that way, but just starting out, you can hot water bath so you don't have to buy a pressure canner. You can, in fact, hot water bath in ANY large pot you have that you can find SOMETHING to use as a rack. Georgia would even sit towels down in the bottom of a big pot to hot water bath stuff if she couldn't put her hands on a rack right then.
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5:42 pm August 23, 2009
| chickypez
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Oh, my husband asked me just the other day if I woulod be making sweet picke relish! Are you using Dede's recipe from the community cookbook? I really need to make that.
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9:27 pm August 23, 2009
| Suzanne McMinn
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No, I used a recipe from the Ball book, but I'm going to make sweet pickle relish again in a few days and I'm going to try Dede's recipe then!
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10:04 pm August 23, 2009
| wvhomecanner
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I hope you like the relish!
I just finished canning tomato soup. Nine quarts and seven pints. This is the second batch this year and we have some from last year so on to something else with tomatoes LOL.
Saw an ad in my local paper today where a farm in Jane Lew has pick your own tomatoes $5 per 5 gallon bucket. Rare to see that in this area. Hope there's some left later in the week ……
dede
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10:16 pm August 23, 2009
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I've never made pickle relish with cucumbers, but I make green tomato pickle relish every year to use up the last of the garden's tomatoes before frost. It looks and tastes like regular cucumber pickle relish. I actually like it better, and most people don't know the difference unless I tell them.
This morning I canned 12 half pints and 14 pints of mustard relish using an adaptation of a recipe a friend makes to sell at the farmers' market. She uses sweet banana peppers, sweet onions, and the same vinegar, sugar, prepared mustard and thickening as the hot pepper butter recipe.
I used hot banana peppers, jalapenos, and a full jar of mustard powder, plus the onions, prepared mustard, vinegar and sugar to make mine. I used Clearjel instead of flour and water — I really like the way it thickens leaving a clear mixture. I like my mustard a little chunky – something like a pickle relish stirred into the mustard. Instead of using the blender or food chopper I chopped everything by hand. (I like to peel and chop…but I REALLY should have put the gloves on before seeding the peppers — I didn't think they were THAT hot. They were.) The mustard turned out well – just hot enough to sting, but not hot enough to blow smoke out of the top of my head.
I have peaches diced and soaking in the syrup to can peach preserves in the morning. I think I'll try making peach jelly with the peelings and pits, too. I'm also making a peach marmalade, and a regular marmalade with clementine oranges and meyer lemons. Sweet oranges, and mild lemons — it should be good.
If I have anything left over after Wednesday's farmers' market I will probably be canning green beans, and making pickles. I have some cucumbers that will make good dill pickles – those big ones you can buy at the deli.
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7:26 am August 30, 2009
| Suzanne McMinn
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I've got Dede's sweet pickle relish in the pickle pot! Got that all ready yesterday for it to soak overnight, so today I'll be canning it! I made a sweet pickle relish out of the Ball book and wasn't completely satisfied with it. It's good, but not what I was looking for. So I'm looking forward to seeing how this comes out. (Since Dede said it's inspired by storebought relish, I think it's going to turn out more like what I had in mind, a relish similar to what you get in the store–only homemade!)
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7:29 am August 30, 2009
| Suzanne McMinn
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I've also been drying quite a bit this weekend. I tried tomatoes again, and they worked out better than last time. I sprayed the tray before putting them down. I didn't blanch or peel them, which was easier. (More seedy, though. Haven't decided whether I care or not yet.) Dried stuff for potpourri. And also dried zucchini chips to put in soups and stews and cassseroles this winter. That was WAY easy and they dried fast. I want to dry more zucchini and squash chips. GREAT way to preserve zucchini and squash for winter recipes, I've decided.
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9:54 am August 30, 2009
| wvhomecanner
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Suzanne, I hope you like the relish – it's the best I have come up with and have been trying for years LOL. Yesterday I canned the Wonderful Salsa recipe using all yellow tomatoes and I added some lime juice and roasted garlic. YUM! Got 21 pints and three half pints. I used some of the Ball platinum pint jars and those will go in Christmas baskets. I still have 50 lbs. of red tomatoes that will become stewed tomatoes, mostly, before the day is over. My dehydrator has been busy too. When I bought the tomatoes I got talked into a case (1 3/4 bushel!) of savoy cabbage for $7. Was 14 BIG heads. I gave three away and have dried 4 so far. I should be in good shape for cabbage on the shelf since I have green shredded cabbage and napa dried already. Cabbage is one of my favorite dehydrated veggies.
Kathy, that relish sounds good. I have a Sandwich Spread recipe (mustard and salad dressing involved) from my neighbor that I ate as a kid. She and her husband celebrated their 70th anniversary a couple of years ago! The recipe is not a recipe that would pass USDA regs but it's really good and I make it every few years. It's an "end of the garden" recipe using green tomatoes, etc. If anyone is interested, let me know.
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12:02 pm August 30, 2009
| Suzanne McMinn
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Dede, what do you do with the dehydrated cabbage? Use it for soups and stews?? I've got some extra cabbage……… I bet shredded cabbage dries like lightning in the dehydrator!
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