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What you should and shouldn't cook from scratch?
February 8, 2012
12:56 pm
Bev in CA
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So many great ideas.  Having lived far from town and our roads closing often in the winter the one thing I found that helped the most was being able to make any baked good from scratch.  Having the basic ingredients on hand really helps.  So many baked goods are so quick to make.  There are many yeast breads that you don't have to knead.  Most recipes only call for 5 minutes or so.  Not too much time involved., then you wait.  Most good loaves of bread cost  $5.00 a loaf.  You can make so much cheaper.   Anything from scratch is always cheaper.  Already mentioned knowing what is in your food is a major plus when you make your own, using Farm Bell mixes is great!  As your children grow they will really enjoy learning and knowing how to make something tasty to eat.  Something that will follow all through their lifetime.  Case in point, the young man featured on Farm Bell today.  Only 16 and look what he can do.   Canning does take time, so worth it, but so much can be frozen, too.  A freezer goes far in the yearly food budget.  Buying in bulk really helps.  Great topic.

February 8, 2012
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There are advantages and disadvantages to canning and to freezing. If the soup is frozen you have to wait for it to thaw but it takes at least two hours to can it. If it is canned you can have it on the table in ten minutes. If it is frozen you have time to make biscuits while it thaws and heats. In either case you have to plan a little and make you methods fit your needs.

When I buy whole chickens I often split them and freeze halves. If I plan well enough I can get one out after supper tonight for supper tomorrow night. A half chicken roasts much more quickly than a whole chicken because both sides are exposed to the oven heat.

February 8, 2012
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jbalt009 said:  It has been a while since I purchased frozen pizza.  

I'm embarrassed to admit it wasn't even a frozen pizza but I paid the outrageous price from a pizza shop.  I always make out own pizza dough, I have a great one minute recipe but I was just too exhausted to even take the time to do it.  Dumb I know but it was what it was! 

February 8, 2012
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Ross, I like the idea about splitting a chicken in half.  When I roast a whole chicken I always cut the back out of the chicken and lay it flat in a foil lined baking pan.  Season and bake, the time is so much shorter, too.  I save the back and freeze.  Later when I have a bunch I make broth, though I always have some broth already canned.

February 8, 2012
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Sometimes I tell Nancy that this or that convenience food was made possible by all of the chicken soup  we have been eating. Tonight we will have chicken noodle cassarole made from a couple of 49 cent per pound chicken thighs and Saturday evening I am going to take the money we saved and take Nancy out for our anniversary. Very likely we will spend the equivilant of a week's worth of groceries. But we don't celebrate number 45 but once.

February 8, 2012
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Ross, oops, posted but it didn't show up.  Hope it doesn't show up twice.  Being thrifty does pay off.  We just celebrated our 50th.  Congratulations to you and Nancy on your 45th Anniversary.

February 8, 2012
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I wanted to ask someone here what the best way to make veggi broth was, Thanks! , what an excellent way to use scraps. I am going to do that!

     I do a lot of things that many of you mentioned except tomatoes and chickens. Growing and canning/freezing tomatoes is cheap and easy and I love the taste. I try not to eat from cans anymore. Also, I raised meat chickens last year and what a difference in quality. If you are unable to raise your own consider finding a source to supply your family with farm raised meat.  Not only is the taste and texture so much better, IMO, but I don't want to ingest the stuff they inject factory raised birds with. Again, its just my experience so I don't want to offend anyone who thinks otherwise. I aslo buy farm raised beef and pork.

     I don;t make my own pasta but I do make our ice cream. I have just started buying organic milk and I love having a 2 ingredient ice cream. (cream and sugar, then flavorings of course). Did you know homemade ice cream is colder than store bought ice cream? I think so, probably because the gums they put in store bought ice creams don't actually freeze, keeping the texture creamier. While homemade freezes more thoroughly because it is just cream and sugar.

February 8, 2012
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kellyb said:

jbalt009 said:  It has been a while since I purchased frozen pizza.  

I'm embarrassed to admit it wasn't even a frozen pizza but I paid the outrageous price from a pizza shop.  I always make out own pizza dough, I have a great one minute recipe but I was just too exhausted to even take the time to do it.  Dumb I know but it was what it was! 

Your better off buying whole wheat pita bread, adding the ingredients, and cooking it in the small conventional over for 10 minutes or so.

February 8, 2012
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aprilejoi said:

I wanted to ask someone here what the best way to make veggi broth was, Thanks! , what an excellent way to use scraps. I am going to do that!

     I do a lot of things that many of you mentioned except tomatoes and chickens. Growing and canning/freezing tomatoes is cheap and easy and I love the taste. I try not to eat from cans anymore. Also, I raised meat chickens last year and what a difference in quality. If you are unable to raise your own consider finding a source to supply your family with farm raised meat.  Not only is the taste and texture so much better, IMO, but I don't want to ingest the stuff they inject factory raised birds with. Again, its just my experience so I don't want to offend anyone who thinks otherwise. I aslo buy farm raised beef and pork.

     I don;t make my own pasta but I do make our ice cream. I have just started buying organic milk and I love having a 2 ingredient ice cream. (cream and sugar, then flavorings of course). Did you know homemade ice cream is colder than store bought ice cream? I think so, probably because the gums they put in store bought ice creams don't actually freeze, keeping the texture creamier. While homemade freezes more thoroughly because it is just cream and sugar.

Do you mind sharing the process to making your own ice cream. If I am to google it I will get a million and one responses

February 8, 2012
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This is starting to stray off topic.

February 8, 2012
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I mostly buy Nature's Own Sugar Free Whole Wheat Bread. I looked at the ingredients on the back. It READS:

Ingredients
 
STONE GROUND WHOLE WHEAT FLOUR WATER MALTITOL WHEAT GLUTEN YEAST CONTAINS 2% OR LESS OF EACH OF THE FOLLOWING: BUTTER * SALT DOUGH CONDITIONERS (SODIUM STEAROYL LACTYLATE, CALCIUM STEAROYL-2-LACTYLATE, MONOGLYCERIDES, CALCIUM PEROXIDE, ETHOXYLATED MONO AND DIGLYCERIDES, DATEM) CULTURED WHEAT FLOUR VINEGAR NATURAL FLAVORS CALCIUM SULFATE MONOCALCIUM PHOSPHATE YEAST FOOD (AMMONIUM SULFATE) SOY LECITHIN*

 

stopSo don''t let words like "all natural flavors", "NO preservatives", or "100% whole grain" fool you. This bread is filled with a ton of chemicals I can't even pronounce. Homemade whole wheat bread has only 6 ingredients: whole wheat flour, yeast, salt, butter, honey, and warm water. None of these ingredients exist here. So at $3 bucks a bag (when on sale) I suggest making your own bread.

February 8, 2012
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I have a very simple rule. If I can not buy all of the listed ingredients on a product package in the store that is selling the food product I don't but it. I choose to make it at home. Sometime when you can afford to waste a few minutes ask a store manager where you can find:

* SALT DOUGH CONDITIONERS (SODIUM STEAROYL LACTYLATE, CALCIUM STEAROYL-2-LACTYLATE, MONOGLYCERIDES, CALCIUM PEROXIDE, ETHOXYLATED MONO AND DIGLYCERIDES, DATEM) CULTURED WHEAT FLOUR VINEGAR NATURAL FLAVORS CALCIUM SULFATE MONOCALCIUM PHOSPHATE YEAST FOOD

If he sells food with these ingredients he should be able and willing to sell the ingredients to you.

February 8, 2012
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So there it is…. BREAD is not worth buying.french

February 8, 2012
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Cooking things from scratch can be a lot of work, but it is something that must be done. Everything must be eaten in moderation anyways. So I figured if I bake one loaf of bread, one desert whether that be cinnamon buns or apple pie, and a dairy product such as cheese. That should be enough to substitute buying bread, artificial packaged cheese and preserved sweets. What do you think? I think it's a start to making some life changes.warrior

February 8, 2012
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Interesting thread!  I have largely done the majority of the household cooking from scratch since my teen years … love baking just about anything, love casseroles large enough for dinner and lunch the next day, love saving money by buying whole chickens (or frozen sale bags) or large cuts of meat to carve into dinner size meals.  I often pickup a heck of a sale in meat, veggie or fruit and freeze in portions.  In the past few years with gaining interest in turning much of our suburban backyard into a veggie garden, I'm embracing the whole creative aspect of canning jams, butters, chutneys, relishes, sauces, salsas for family and gifts … this year I hope to move into pressure canning soups and broths.

As to what should be scratch-cooked versus store-bought is subjective to the individual and family.  My ongoing rule-of-thumb in simply living is to do the best possible for myself and family according to where I am each day.  There will be the on-top-of-the-world days where there is home-baked bread and the crockpot/casserole/stockpot overfloweth … versus the day when my fatigue level gets the best of me and I will march to the freezer and pull out a frozen store-bought pizza without apology (although my DH chuckles over my compulsion to add "better toppings and seasonings").  I also have store-bought whole grain bread in that same freezer.  We eat store-bought whole grain pastas, tortillas and brown rice for ordinary meals so the occasional small foray into chemical preservatives isn't going to embalm the household before our time and time isn't always on my side in cooking it all from scratch.  Pick your pleasurable conquests, ie, the items you enjoy making from scratch foremost over a compulsion to do it all.

February 8, 2012
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I can help with the bread equation. A bag of flour costs about 3 dollars, a package of bulk yeast will supply you for a long time and you can make about 8 pounds of bread with a bag of flour. Canned biscuits are about 1.25 per little can. It takes about 30 minutes of hands on time including clean up for a batch of yeast bread and less for biscuits of muffins. Yeast bread needs a four hour window of time . Every family with small kids love home made bread.

I haven't bought bread in years.

February 8, 2012
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Ruthmarie said:

Interesting thread!  I have largely done the majority of the household cooking from scratch since my teen years … love baking just about anything, love casseroles large enough for dinner and lunch the next day, love saving money by buying whole chickens (or frozen sale bags) or large cuts of meat to carve into dinner size meals.  I often pickup a heck of a sale in meat, veggie or fruit and freeze in portions.  In the past few years with gaining interest in turning much of our suburban backyard into a veggie garden, I'm embracing the whole creative aspect of canning jams, butters, chutneys, relishes, sauces, salsas for family and gifts … this year I hope to move into pressure canning soups and broths.

As to what should be scratch-cooked versus store-bought is subjective to the individual and family.  My ongoing rule-of-thumb in simply living is to do the best possible for myself and family according to where I am each day.  There will be the on-top-of-the-world days where there is home-baked bread and the crockpot/casserole/stockpot overfloweth … versus the day when my fatigue level gets the best of me and I will march to the freezer and pull out a frozen store-bought pizza without apology (although my DH chuckles over my compulsion to add "better toppings and seasonings").  I also have store-bought whole grain bread in that same freezer.  We eat store-bought whole grain pastas, tortillas and brown rice for ordinary meals so the occasional small foray into chemical preservatives isn't going to embalm the household before our time and time isn't always on my side in cooking it all from scratch.  Pick your pleasurable conquests, ie, the items you enjoy making from scratch foremost over a compulsion to do it all.

I agree. It is important not to turn this activity into a compulsion. We need to be not just efficient, but realistic with what our lifestyle allows us to do. I am going to make butter from scratch this week because in the process I will get the buttermilk. With that I can make pancakes and biscuits. Hopefully the cream at the store is not that expensive. If I had a goat, I would most definitely do this all the time. Let's see what happens.happy-flowerI live in the city, so commercial grocery stores is all I got. A whole foods is usually a 6-12 miles away. Not efficient. 

February 8, 2012
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Another item to buy, which makes a great healthy snack is hummus. Should not buy, definitely make. Store ingredients have too much sodium and other unnatural ingredients.vomit

February 8, 2012
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jbalt009 said:

I agree. It is important not to make this activity a compulsion. We need to be not just efficient, but realistic with what our lifestyle allows us to do. I am going to make butter from scratch this week because in the process I will get the buttermilk I need to make pancakes and biscuits. Hopefully the cream at the store is not that expensive. If I had a goat, I would most definitely do so all the time. Let's see what happens.happy-flower

 

Well, I'm of the thought that one should scratch whatever creative itch that demands attention (your kids will get a hoot out of shaking cream into butter in a jar) … but if cream in your area is as expensive as CA (and we have dairy cows and cheese out here!), I'd fall back on my favorite substitute for buttermilk: one-half creamy yogurt mixed with one-half milk.  Whip vigorously with a fork till liquid.  I rarely buy buttermilk as I'm unlikely to use it quickly enough and I always have yogurt on hand.  Come to think of it, our favorite oatmeal pancakes that calls for buttermilk I have never made with buttermilk!

February 9, 2012
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jbalt009…I will post my fruit roll up recipe in FBR this weekend.  

As a working mom, the freezer is also my friend.  When I cook dinner on the weekends I try to make a "double" batch.  Then I freeze the extra.  This gives me quick go-to meals on the nights I know I'll be home late from work, or I know I'm not going to want to cook when I get home.  

My family loves pizza & I have to admit we are guilty of doing the take & bake option more nights than we should.  I have started using a pizza dough recipe that can be frozen, so that has helped.  I am also a fan of putting my daughter to "work" when cooking.  She loves to help, so this allows me to spend more time in the kitchen making things from scratch without sacrificing time with her.  When she sees me put my apron on she'll run for hers & start dragging her chair to the counter!

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