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Borrowed Milking Machine Help
May 11, 2011
7:10 am
BuckeyeGirl
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It's if you use the sanitizing soap like a dairy would.  And it's not as if an occasional sinkfull gets put in the tank, it's a day after day sort of thing both for the soap AND believe it or not too much water is actually bad for the leach field.  There are less microbe killing ways to wash it, it's just that that's the easiest fastest way.  Even if I were using a regular soap, I'd personally want to give it a rinse with the sanitizer on some periodic basis.  every other day? once a week?  not sure. 

Oh, do you want some more glass milk bottles with caps?  I get the glass bottles from Hartzler Dairy and I just won't return some of them before the retreat if you want!  (don't worry, the deposit won't break me!)

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May 11, 2011
7:13 am
Cousin Sheryl
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The "sanitizing" solution will kill/decrease the bacteria in your septic system that "eats" the solid waste.  Using bleach in your laundry will slowly do this too.  You should add "Rid-X" to your septic system every so often.

 

Do you know about Rid-X?  It is a powdered that you flush down your toilet and it adds the "good" bacteria back into the system.  Available at most grocery stores in the cleaning product aisle.

I am excited for you to get the portable milker!  Whoo-hoo!

 

Have a nice day, Cuz!

moo

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May 11, 2011
7:21 am
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*Holds up her hand to give Cousin Sheryl a high five*

Yeah!  Though my septic guy said that the amount of bleach I use, (one or two loads a week) won't make a dent in a healthy tank and not to worry about that at all.  Still as important as it is to keep the milker as bacteria free as possible, a daily dose will be too much.

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May 11, 2011
7:26 am
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We have and use Rid-X.

 

Well, will have to do some figuring.  If it's something I just need to do a couple times a week, it seems to me it would simpler to just wash it outside with the hose when I do that.  I don't think I want a hose running out from the wash tub outside on a regular basis.  Another project this summer will be working on the downstairs to do renovation work to open for workshops and farm stays, remember?  I'm not all about having a hose running all the way across the downstairs to outside in my decorating dreams. happy-flower

Clover made me do it.
May 11, 2011
7:27 am
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What is this sanitizing solution, by the way?  Where do you get that? 

Clover made me do it.
May 11, 2011
7:36 am
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I saw the sanitizing stuff on that link you posted where you ordered the milker ;)

When I had a septic tank, I fed it a cake of yeast once a month. Crumbled, flushed it.

These days Rid-X may be easier to find than cake yeast LOL.

 

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May 11, 2011
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WooHoo on the milker!!  I'LL even be able to milk BP…what I did was not considered milking….

“Learn all you can from the mistakes of others. You won’t have time to make them all yourself.”  ― Alfred Sheinwold
May 11, 2011
7:43 am
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You can get it either as a liquid or powder from most feed stores or farm supply places and I think I saw it on the site where you ordered the milker from too… a commercial dairy flushes all the tubes, tanks and milkers with it after every milking, and soaks any portable milkers in it after every use

They milk any cow that is getting medicine, and all the new mamas with the portable milkers so they can a) not mix the colostrum into the tank, b) make sure their calves get the colostrum, and c) if they have a cow on any antibiotic or medicine, they keep that out of the main tank too.  I can't speak to the huge dairies that milk a thousand cows, but the smaller family farms that milk a hundred or so cows are very careful!

Now, you'll have time to wash yours carefully (though that can be time consuming) plus, you won't be depending on some hired kid doing the washing up who might not do such a great job.  I'm just used to commercial practices.  Commercial but still family and local kids (I was one of those local kids along with the kids in the family!) 

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May 11, 2011
4:25 pm
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I don't know much about milking, but I do know about septic tanks.  The University of Missouri has done research on septic tanks, and they say that additives, like yeast and Rid-X are not necessary, are a waste of money, and may even be harmful. 

Normal household use of sanitizers, like bleach, is not harmful to the flora and fauna of the septic tank.  Think about it–do you think a whole gallon of bleach would be enough to kill the bacteria in a 500-1000 gallon tank of waste?  Two?  Three?  Nope.  Might kill some, but the rest would just multiply faster.  There is a lot of organic material in the tank, and it takes a LOT of sanitizer to impact organic material.)

No need to add purchased bacteria/enzymes/yeast–every time you 'make a deposit' and flush your toilet, you are adding zillions of bacteria.

(That said, I don't see a problem with letting the washwater drain out into the yard from the milking machine washing.  It doesn't need to go thru the tank, and excess water in the system can be a problem.)

If you have problems with odors or slow flushing or whatever, it is probably because your system was not set up correctly to begin with, you are adding too much water to the system, or it needs to be pumped.  (You should do that every few years–if the tank gets full of solids and the lines get clogged, you are sure to have problems.)

 

Here is more than you ever need to know about septic tanks:  http://extension.missouri.edu/…..px?P=EQ401

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January 11, 2012
9:36 pm
Leah's Mom
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For Suzanne – now that you've used your milker for quite some time, would you recommend the one you got? 

After you use something awhile you can sometimes figure out features that you'd like that you didn't get but may be on another model so it would be helpful to get your feedback on your milker/vacuum pump after the perspective of time and use.moo

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