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1:52 pm
November 25, 2009


BuckeyeGirl

N.E. Ohio

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posts 3992

OK, I'm really wanting to get some ducks this spring, but am also a little hesitant.  I currently have chickens and have had them for years, I've also had goats, horses, pigs and I've milked cows and dealt with llamas and alpacas, but I've never had ducks.

Here's the thing, I live ON a river.  If Suzanne has trouble with her little pond, what kind of trouble am I asking for since I live on a river?  Am I CRAZY??  Do I get 20 and hope that by this time next year I have 4 left? 

I'm worried.  Anyone have advice?

If tomatoes are a fruit, then isn’t ketchup technically a

smoothie?

4:57 pm
November 25, 2009


Helen

Super Chicken

posts 582

I vaguely remember a former landlady of mine (who had all sorts of animals, including ducks) said that ducks won't stay unless you clip their wings.  It was her belief that it had something to do with ducks being migratory…and when they get the call, they go…it is an instinct that they cannot ignore, nor has it been bred out of them yet.  So if Suzanne's ducks are leaving, and if you get ducks and they disappear, Buckeye Girl, then I suppose if the migratory theory is correct, they are leaving because they must, not because they want to.  If the little duck that stays with Suzanne is bred, perhaps she would pass her "stay at home" genes on to another generation…?  If somebody could breed a species of "stay at home" ducks, pehaps there is money to be made…?

George Orwell – 1984
- Orthodoxy means not thinking–not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness.

5:02 pm
November 25, 2009


Pete

WV

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posts 7875

Have never known anyone who could keep ducks at home, unless they had picked the place as home themselves.  A neighbor had a pair that stayed and nested in the creek, but they had opted to call it their home.

The wing clipping thing may keep them from flyng, but will it keep them at home?  Don't know.

Have known serveral people who managed to keep geese around, though.  No idea how they did it.

Anulos qui animum ostendunt omnes gestemus!

11:19 pm
November 25, 2009


Leahld22

Newburgh, IN

Superstar

posts 2673

I find it interesting humming birds migrate  by hopping onto the backs of geese!

Life is too important to be taken too seriously.

11:28 pm
November 25, 2009


BuckeyeGirl

N.E. Ohio

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posts 3992

Errr, I'm pretty sure that's a myth Leah, though I bet they wish they could!  Those tiny wings must work WAY over-time to get them the distances they do migrate over!

If tomatoes are a fruit, then isn’t ketchup technically a

smoothie?

8:56 am
December 1, 2009


Joyce

Western WV

Mighty Chicken

posts 178

We have kept ducks on and off for years.  They are a lot of fun,  however clipping their wings to make them stay home will probably not help much.  Most of the domestic ducks are heavy enough that they don't fly much, a long runway and not very graceful landings.  If you do clip wings one wing  is enough as that puts them off balance.    We have a small creek running past the house where they like to dibble, down below the hay fields it meets the river.  We have never had ducks go all the way to the river though in the Spring when the nesting urge hits they do hide out on the creek in the brush.  The real problem with ducks providing you train them to come to be fed (at least in the evening so you can close them up for the night) is that almost everything preys on them and they are defenceless.  In our area they are vunerable to foxes, coyotes, hawks and great horned owls.  The Pekin ducks are great egg layers as good as the chickens but they are messy so you need a good sized area.  Hope this helps

10:49 am
December 1, 2009


BuckeyeGirl

N.E. Ohio

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posts 3992

Thank you, it does.  I think my biggest problem will be predators too… though since I live right ON the Upper Cuyahoga river, (WAY above the part that burned!) I'm a little worried about them just paddling away, more so than them flying away. 

I don't really plan on clipping wings, I figure that's the least of my problems, and I don't clip my chichens' wings either, they free range and I want them to have the best chance possible of evading anything that chases them…

I suppose when I first get them, if I set up a fenced area for at first, and get them used to being fed and enclosed in the house for the night from day one (?) it might help… but that river will be such a temptation I fear.  I have at least one neighbor just down river who will love to tempt them over too!  In a good/funny way!  He likes ducks and he'll have cracked corn for them and I'll be lucky if they don't move in over there!  I'll have visitation though so it's ok.  (He's a nice guy and a good neighbor, don't worry)  That's a whole 'nuther story though… if I lost them to him, I'd just think it was funny. If I lose them to predators or to an unknown 'something', I'll be unhappy… ah well, at least we'll have stories come spring, cause I think I'm going to do it!  Laugh

If tomatoes are a fruit, then isn’t ketchup technically a

smoothie?

7:46 am
December 2, 2009


Joyce

Western WV

Mighty Chicken

posts 178

Given where you live, your plan of keeping the ducks close to home until they are used to you and the area, and in the habit of being fed and shut up in the evening is about the best you can do.  I hope you do well come Spring.  We have just four Pekin ducks  at the moment that I got this past Spring along with chickens and guineas.  They are the oddest  ducks we have ever had, as so far they appear terrified of the creek and insist on washing in a half barrel (on its side) and drinking from buckets with the other birds.  We usually start our birds in the greenhouse under a brooder,  then gradually get them used to the outside.  There is a downside to this arrangement.  We have about an acre or so that is garden surrounded by stock fence,  this works well until the birds are ready to go to the barn or chicken house,  then for some weeks we can't go outside without a line of heads peeping through the fence wanting back in, and in the case of the guineas yelling about it.

10:46 am
December 2, 2009


BuckeyeGirl

N.E. Ohio

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posts 3992

Oh!  I think that's odd for Pekins to not care for water that much!  I DO know about Muskovies because an aunt had them, and they don't particularly LIKE water!  Isn't that funny!  Something to do with less oil in their feathers. 

Now see, those might be the perfect ducks for me to get, but they aren't my favorites… at least they'd be more likely to stay out of the river eh?  Picking out chickens and ducks is a lot like garden catalogs!  We look, and look, and make lists, then revise the lists, and… well winter is long and chilly after all!  

If tomatoes are a fruit, then isn’t ketchup technically a

smoothie?

12:18 pm
December 13, 2009


Runningtrails – Sheryl

Barrie, Ontario

Mighty Chicken

posts 452

I would love to have a few ducks too! I have lots of land underwater until about June, but nothing in the summertime. It all dries up. I am considering putting in a mud pond, though. I have a low area that's perfect for it and a high water table. I know it would be always full of water. There is a little pond there until June, as I said above, but it dries up then. If I dig it deeper, I may have water all year. I haven't done it yet because its costly. I have considered hand digging it, but that's just way too much for me to think about right now. If I could put the money together, I might hire someone with a big digger to come and dig the pond for me.

I might also put in a little one hear the chicken house where they can stay all the time. I am considering fencing in a large area there for the chickens to sort of free range. The fence is more to keep the chickens in than to keep predators out. They have a very large fenced and covered secure run now but I like to let them out to wander in good weather. They wander all over the place, that's the problem. They head down the driveway and into the garden.

I would love to keep a few ducks with them and put a small pond in the fenced area. This would also guarantee that the chickens always have water to drink too. I would need something that would not fly away.

I don't know about the flying away instinct. If there is open water here, there are mallard ducks and Canada geese in it all year long. There's not many places with open water, however. We see it on the big lakes. We live near one.

Sheryl

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8:14 pm
December 13, 2009


BuckeyeGirl

N.E. Ohio

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posts 3992

OK, I've been searching around a bit, and it doesn't look like domestic ducks are much prone to flying away.  There are exceptions of course, but mostly they prefer to stay home when there's not enough evidence in sight for them of greener pastures.  Flying to search out someplace new doesn't seem to be the first thing that occurs to them.

Also, it seems like they're quite happy with a child's wading pool to swim in, they don't seem to need an actual pond or whatever… thing is, I haven't found anyone yet with a RIVER where they may be tempted away via the water, either by the 'call of the wild' and interesting nesting spots along the bank, or by neighbor's that might feed them.  Oh well, I guess I'll be a test case!  Like I said, I'll just start them out with good chow and safe warm quarters… though from the evidence of Suzanne's duckies, they don't seem to care if they're safe or not either.  **sigh**

If tomatoes are a fruit, then isn’t ketchup technically a

smoothie?

9:29 am
November 10, 2011


Jenn777

Oxford

Banty

posts 7

Hi Buckeye, love the name it is my favorite breed of chicken! My honey hates them cuz they are spirited and peck at him (they do me too, but then I just scoop them up under and arm and they loved to be loved). Anywho, ducks.

We hatch our own ducks.. Runes, Peking, Indian Runners, Mallards and Khaki Campbell to name some. They are indeed the messiest of our babies. And I learned the hard way to raise them seperate from the chicks. When I brought in the older ones from auctions and markets I clipped wings to let them stay long enough to know this was home. I also learned the hard way that yep if you didn't they would hang out with the horses in their pasture for a few days and then be long gone.

Now these grown babies know no other place as home and they stay put. We sell off extra babies to local farmers and to city slickers gone country. I have kept tabs… ponds, streams and creeks don't seem to be any temptation. So its seems to me that one 'generation' raised in the brooder boxes then to the grown off coop and then to the regular coop domesticates just about any breed duck. Just my experience :)

Oh I also learned the hard way that the grow off coop needs to be one for ducks and a separate one for chicks.. the chicks will tear off the feathers/fuzz of the ducks. I had two bald butt ducks before that lesson sank in! No deaths thank goodness. (I found that a hurt chicken could be put in with ducks for healing and recouping, but again get him/her out as soon as all better as this chick will beat up the ducks)

My poor babies have suffered my learning curve and I hope this helps you!

11:22 am
November 24, 2011


cindi

Chesterville ON

Big Chicken

posts 18

Did you ever get your ducks?  We have 11 Cayuga ducks and they are wonderful (so are their amazing eggs!), if a bit messy. lol  They live together with our 'roos, but we've come to learn that their water source absolutely cannot be inside the coop with their bedding, etc.  Things get far too wet, far too fast, and it causes mold growth in the bedding very quickly. This is undesirable at the best of times, but with ducks being particularly susceptible to illness caused by exposure to mold (aspergillus (sp?), etc), it's out of the question. We kept the waterer outside during the summer, but now with the winter coming we're building a small food/water room onto the coop that will have a hardware cloth floor, to allow spillage to escape, with a pan or two underneath to catch spilled food/water for easy disposal.

Anyway, our ducks can fly a little bit, but only to a height of about 5 feet at the most, and not for any sort of real distance. Ours mainly fly when they're happy-excited or afraid-excited. In fact, I took a drake to the head one day when they were in high spirits! lol They love water like nobody's business, and so we keep a kiddy pool for them, lacking the large pond we'd love to have for them. I'd worry about having a river nearby too… There's a couple with ducks up the road from us and they've got the river across the road from them. We keep waiting for the day their ducks discover it and decide there are greener pastures! They haven't disappeared yet though, so maybe they're not so inclined…

Foxes are a real issue for us and our ducks can only free range while we're out there with them, lacking any fencing except for their pen. At first we were under the impression that the foxes only hunted from the evening till the morning, but then we lost birds to them in the afternoon. :( That was an eye opener and so we've been more vigilant since. There are also coyotes out here, hawks, turkey vultures that live a couple of properties down, etc, so there's much to worry about with them, but so far there have only been problems with the foxes. The birds are canny and take off for cover (or me) when they spot birds of prey.

Do let us know if you did decide to get ducks…I'm curious now as to what you think of them if you did! :)

12:20 pm
November 24, 2011


BuckeyeGirl

N.E. Ohio

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posts 3992

No ducks here for me yet!  I'm going to get some barn siding for my duck house after Thanksgiving.  I'll go looking for some ducks in the spring, (early).  That and some guineas too.  I ordered some last spring, and loved having them, but was reduced to just one pair… then after a storm knocked them out of their tree roost a week or so ago, something got the cockerel, so now I just have one lone hen. 

The others just all wandered off!  I may consider clipping their wings for the next batch, so they stick around early on, which is when the others all took off, when still very young and skittish.  The pair that stuck, were calm and used to all the goings on and were very fun to have around.  Much calmer, less noisy and very cute as they pair up in a very dedicated way and were fun to watch.  (yes, I know they aren't for everyone.)

So, Ducks in the spring for me!  …probably.

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smoothie?


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