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6:48 pm
February 10, 2009
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Just so you all know, I don't ascribe to the magic ideas about raw milk. I don't think it's evil, but I don't think it's magically perfect either, I think caution is advised though.
I wouldn't let my elderly father (nearly 93) drink it without pasteurizing or an infant if one were in the family, but healthy family members, yeah, no worries as long as I knew the source, like from Beulah Petunia or my own well cared for cows.
This is from Mother Earth News, which some of you may already get. Thought I'd share it just in case any of you are interested.
http://www.motherearthnews.com…..dium=email
9:01 pm
May 14, 2005
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That is a GREAT article, Deb! Very interesting. Real milk is a farmer's luxury in today's world.
11:53 pm
December 14, 2010
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I grew up on raw milk and I am sure we developed a imunune system that allowed us to survive on it . I also know that we didn't practice the quality of hygene that is called for today. We had to use a strainer to remove the dandruf and hair from the milk and I don't remember ever washing an apparently clean udder only if it had manure showing did it get a token washing because we didn't have hot water piped to the barn. Our cows were tested for the known diseases and we didn't drink milk from sick cows. All the same I am happy to get pastuerized milk.
12:03 am
October 1, 2011
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I was also rasised on a dairy farm. I always drank raw milk – we didn't know there was another way to have it. I echo the need for caution. We started our little farm with a jersey. I had to sell her last year after she contracted an mastitis-type infection that couldn't be cured. It also caused all the cheese to not turn out. Alas….. I'm a huge support of raw milk if thata's what one chooses to drink.
1:14 am
February 8, 2009
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Ross said:
I grew up on raw milk and I am sure we developed a imunune system that allowed us to survive on it .
Kinda weird choice of words here, you don't have to build up an immune system for raw milk..
You don't get sick from raw milk…..you might get sick if bacteria develop in the raw milk…the longer it takes for milk to reach costumers the more change there is …therefore is pasteurization in a milk-factory a good and safe thing to do.
There are a lot of people allergic for milk these days, well it is not a real allergy more a digesting problem, some of the enzymes present in milk, are needed for digesting the milk, are also killed during the pasteurization.
After we got our cow….a new world opened for my son and me…we could drink milk, eat butter, cream etc.
Before we could only eat cheese and yogurt without problems.
2:25 am
September 20, 2010
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I have fallen in love with the raw milk that I buy from a local family here in town, I have seen the cow, the facility where the milk comes from and know its safe to drink. The only problem is they may be selling the COW! I don't think I could ever go back to store bought milk! no cream, no butter, no yogurt making!!!!! every week when I go pick up my GOLD, I think to myself, THIS MAY BE THE LAST TIME!!!
I NEED A MILK COW! 
8:01 am
August 30, 2008
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Izzie agree completely, Izzie. I am so thankful to have a good raw milk source and pray I always do.
8:43 am
February 10, 2009
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Totally agree with you Flatlander! There's a lot involved in getting the milk from the farm to the grocery store, and the time and distance it takes in a mass-production situation, means there's more time and opportunity for contamination.
Dairy farmers are incredibly careful, but when the milk gets mishandled after it gets pumped out of their tank, all bets are off. It goes into that big truck, mixed with all the other farmer's milk and so IF someone made a mistake that morning several farms back on the route, (or, since it isn't usually picked up every day, that WEEK!) it isn't just THAT farmer's milk that gets contaminated, it's the whole giant tank on the truck that gets contaminated. To be fair, it gets tested for bacteria or other contaminates several more times along the way, and they don't hesitate to dump a whole truck of milk if they need to, but still. There's out of the farmer's bulk tank, into the truck, in the hoses when it's pumped into the dairy tanks at the plant, as it's processed, bottled, handled etc etc etc. I understand why they worry.
I also know that if you can find a small local dairy that still bottles their own milk like the dairy I get my milk from, that's ~nearly~ as good as raw milk, or in my case with my elderly father in the house, BETTER for our house in our circumstances. If I could find a source for raw milk, I would still not use it for him without pasteurizing it myself …though cheese would be nice!
My source is Hartzler Dairy. They do a low-temperature vat pasteurization method which is said to insure the milk retains a majority of its enzymes. A better product as far as I'm concerned FOR US, and it makes great yogurt and soft cheese, though I have yet to try anything more complicated (yet). We all make our own choices for our own reasons though too.
As a suggestion, if you can't find a source for raw milk, or like me have someone in the house that makes you pause when it comes to using actual raw milk, go to the New England Cheesmaking site and look at their "goodmilklist" page for good milk. Hartzer Dairy is on it, and maybe there's something near you too.
http://www.cheesemaking.com/go…..ist.html Here's the page for that info.
Sorry for the long post, I'm bad that way… 
5:43 pm
February 22, 2010
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I went to pick up my milk today and our Amish friend came out from his house with a gallon tupperware container, "This is all we have left, they just came and picked up everything in the tank." It was our fault we got there late in the day…I didn't take his last gallon i told him I'd send my husband over on Monday morning.
This Amish family also supplies the local bulk store with baked goods. He told me today that they cannot use their own milk when baking for the store because it is not pasturized, nor can they use their own eggs because they don't have a certification to sell their eggs. He said he was very happy to sell his milk to anyone for 2.50 a gallon because he understands how much milk costs in the store. "We have to be very careful when figuring the cost of our baked goods…$4.00 a gallon is very pricy for milk."
Earl (Amish dairyman) gave me a list of the tanker truck pickup times. He was so apologetic about not having given us a list before. I love doing business with Earl!
6:30 pm
September 20, 2010
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I want a Earl in my life!!!!! There is another family, that may be able to sell us milk but they are about twenty minutes away from the house, but at this point I just don't think I can live with out it, so maybe I would even drive 50 miles for this GOLD! if I had too this morning the boy wanted waffles so I used the buttermilk I had made and they were so YUMMY! Kind of funny when you think about it, milk is the most natural thing in the world and in some states it is illegal to buy it. When I first started buying it my older son told me " you know Mom you could be arrested 
for buying this stuff" I just laughed at him
but when you think about it, it really is not funny. I realize this is a personal choice and as Buckeye has said, I would not feed it to a baby, or toddler, or an elderly person, and you do have to be very careful as to where you are getting the milk from, I do fully understand this! just bothers me a little bit that slowly we are having our God given rights taken away from us. Cantaloupe has listeria and now romaine lettuce, WHAT NEXT? oh cannot forget about the Ground Beef from Tyson either, so I feel safer buying meat, and milk from Local Farms, don't even want to visit the grocery store anymore. I could go on and on but I won't !!!!
10:32 pm
September 16, 2010
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Well, I live in one of those illegal states so that's one reason I have my goats. Not sure I could ever go back to "store bought" now.
5:42 pm
September 20, 2010
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Just got a phone call from a lady that has to much MILK!!!! so next Friday on to the new farm for milk!!! I am so happy about this and actually the farm is pretty close to the house, we got to talking on the phone and she wants to learn to pressure can, so now I have someone to learn with. 
10:16 am
October 3, 2011
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this is my first post. I love the raw milk. I buy it from a local farm. I have to say pasturised milk can also get contaminated. A few people in MA , that had pasturised milk, died when the milk got contaminated during the bottling. They might have been elderly. I think it was listeria.
12:19 am
August 24, 2010
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Lizzie…You'll have fun learning to pressure can. Glad you found a partner to learn with, it makes the process go by faster to chat while you chop. =)
Before I bought my milk cow, or thought of buying a milk cow, I didn't like milk, didn't drink it much. Now that I have my Sunny Belle I could drink a few glasses a day (and sometimes do!)
I feel that the raw milk can help my youngest boy, who has allergies and asthma. The less processed his food the better. And that goes for all my boys. We raise our own beef, trade with friends who raise lambs and goats, raise our own meat chickens, have layer hens. If I can avoid going to the store for something, know how it was raised and how the animals lived..Why not do it??
1:14 am
September 20, 2010
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AlicaN,
What I love the most about the raw milk is you get cream and butter, you can't do that when you buy a gallon of milk at the store. The taste of the milk is so much better then store bought and now when I have a recipe that has cream in it, I don't have to run out and buy it! just skim some off the milk, it's so much easier. I have met the new cow and calf, they are beautiful and well cared for, they have it all set up for milking and cleaning all the equipment, they raise chickens, and pigs. I would love to raise meat birds, but we are not set up for it here and I would have to take them to a friends house to be processed. I have enough problems with my hens getting along with one another! But I would love to have a MILK COW!! I would do the Happy Milk Cow Dance on a daily basis! Next on my list is to learn to make cheese. Have fun with Sunny Belle! they have such sweet faces.
6:43 pm
September 20, 2010
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Okay, tomorrow I am going to learn how to milk a cow!!! The lady that I buy milk from needs someone to milk her cow on Friday and Monday mornings, and I get the milk for FREE! I am so excited, I have never milked a cow, but I am going to learn.
8:05 pm
December 14, 2010
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Trim your finger nails and be prepared for muscle sore forearms.
11:03 pm
September 20, 2010
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Hi Ross,
Good thing I don't have finger nails!!! and they have a milking machine, is this cheating?
11:07 pm
February 22, 2010
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lizzie, lizzie, lizzie…you'er not milkin' a cow…you're running a machine
11:36 pm
September 20, 2010
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OH no Miss Judy, I am machine impaired, I can only hope they will teach me to do this, I have to be there at 5:30 a.m.
at least I think its one of those machines, when I was out at the farm looking over the cow and the barn, I saw one of those contraptions that you put on the utters, maybe I will have to do this by hand? This should be pretty funny, to bad I cannot video tape myself doing this. What people will do for a gallon of REAL milk
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