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"Scent" for Preditor Dedeterrent?
April 26, 2012
8:44 am
Leah's Mom
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Reading about various preditors, I came across a statement that coyotes would avoid areas in which they detected the scent of llamas.  Now I don't know if what I read was correct but, assuming it is, that got me thinking. 

I began to wonder if anyone sells llama "scent" that could be placed around perimeter areas for livestock. 

So…I began to search the internet to see what I could find but so far, nothing.  (Perhaps I need to use different search terminology than I did…)

Now I'm asking YOU

-Is there any such thing as purchasing and using llama scent (or any other Livestock Guardian scent ) for preditor deterrent?

If there is:
-Have you used it?
-Does it work?
-Where do you get it?
-How often do you have to apply it?

April 26, 2012
12:16 pm
Leah's Mom
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Okay…I went back and tried various search terms and came up with this website.  Maybe it will be useful to others so I'll post it here…it's called Preditor Pee help

 

http://www.predatorpee.com/

 

Still wondering if anyone has tried it!!

April 26, 2012
12:21 pm
Ross
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Most "scents" of that nature are urine. And they will work for a while until the animal learns that there is no real threat. paper tigers are then a joke.

April 26, 2012
6:32 pm
MissPat
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There is a hobby llama farmer in my area who sells  Llama Beans, they're great

for fertilizer.  I don't know if they would work as a deterrent, but I would imagine so.

Scent is scent!  Try a search for Wunsapana Farm.  She has a blog in our local newspaper too.

April 26, 2012
7:58 pm
Ross
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Remember it has to be fresh. One week old won't work for man nor beast.french

April 26, 2012
8:44 pm
Pete
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Been trying to figure out a way to put this so that it is more humorous than offensive.  Keep your fingers crossed!

Human urine really is effective with coyotes.  Others critters as well.  Fortunately there are enough folks around here with natural delivery systems that I don't need to collect or store the liquid.  And we have not needed an application schedule – just enough attention to detail to ensure no damage to plants.

Anulos qui animum ostendunt omnes gestemus!
April 26, 2012
9:04 pm
Ross
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You have it right darlin' . But there is a fox that comes into my yard that depends upon certain odors to assure him that all is safe.

April 26, 2012
10:45 pm
Leah's Mom
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I'm liking that…   bug-eyed wink

 

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April 27, 2012
10:46 am
LK
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Coyotes stayed FAR, FAR away when we had our llamas. They would not come within a mile of our place. The neighbors even commented how they hadn't seen coyotes around for quite some time, and they always had problems with them. Our llamas were the first ones ever in the area, so it is not like they knew that llamas were dangerous to them. It would be scent alone. After our llamas were gone, they noticed an increase again. We never did know if it was their urine/droppings or just the overall smell that was just the smell of their coats. We never really cared, just enjoyed the lack of local coyotes. The llamas were both males, by the way.

happy-flower MissPat, we called them Llama Beans too. lol The do make a fantastic, non-smelly slow release fertilizer! When we get our alpacas, we hope that we can use it the same way. We know, though, that they need protection from predators. They don't have the same effect on coyotes or stray dogs. In fact, they need protection from them the very most.

I have heard that people urine is very effective, even for deer (a lady I know tried it around her garden with great success). But, just as a dog has to re-apply regularly and especially after a rain, so would your people. I don't know if it makes a difference whether it is male or female. It is a scent that isn't theirs and that is usually what marks a territory. I know that the dog that we have now (female), marks her territory regularly with urine, droppings, and scratching the ground. She is respected by the coyotes and foxes. We have only had one come within the boundary. She found it and kept it at bay until we could shoot it. That is the only issue that we ever had.

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