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What Do Chickens Need?
February 8, 2012
11:36 pm
Linda Goble
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I am excited Hubby says I can get chickens, I don't know anything about this.  Is their any good books any one suggest? I am looking for chickens for eggs and maybe some for my freezer.  I plan to do Organic.  I have no idea how big a coop?  My hubby an I will build a coop.  I am looking to get them hopefully in spring or early summer. Is there a special breed that you like over the rest of the breeds? Any info for what  I need is going to be a big help in me getting started. Thank you!!!!!!!!!

February 8, 2012
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I changed this to a whole new thread, because a lot of people will have things to add and it can become a fun and helpful thing to a lot of people.

Here's what I came up with on short notice!

There are several good books, “Storey's Guide to Raising Chickens” is good, there’s a Chickens for Dummies book out there, and “The Chicken Health Handbook” by Gail Damerow.   Don’t know for sure about the chickens for dummies book, but I’ve heard it’s good and I know the other two are.

Chicken coops should be able to keep predators OUT.  It’s incredibly heartbreaking to come out in the morning and find out that a raccoon or opossum or coyote or mink(weasel) got in and literally tore them apart over night.  Neighbor dogs can also destroy them in a few minutes of afternoon “fun”.

Any openings in a coop need to be covered with hardware cloth as opposed to chicken wire.  If you are keeping them in a run, it’s best to have the lower part covered with hardware cloth because raccoons will reach through large fencing and tear legs and wings off while they’re alive.  Yeah, gross.

Chicken wire is good for keeping chickens in… it is too flimsy to keep predators out. 

Coops do NOT need to be insulated at all, chickens have down and are fine in almost the coldest weather.  Coops DO need to have ventilation, chickens produce moisture both from breathing and from pooping, and in the winter, it can cause dampness which is dangerous.  It’s bad for their lungs, and it also makes it hard for their down to fluff up enough to provide the insulation it’s designed to do.

Chickens need clean water at all times and decent feed.  In the summer if they’re free ranging and have access to lots of bugs and vegetation, they’ll eat a lot less feed, but they still do best with some.  They definitely need good feed in the winter.

They need roosts to rest on overnight, which should be higher than the nest boxes.  They will roost on the highest things, and you don’t want them roosting in the nest boxes, cause they poop a lot at night and you want the nest boxes to stay clean.

They don’t need anything fancy, but if you’re feeling like getting fancy, they’ll adapt!

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February 9, 2012
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I agree with all the above.  Living up North, I do add some wind breaks by way of tarps hung and straw bales edging the North and West sides of the run.  I have kept Standard, bantam and even Seramas with no issues at all in unheated coops, for years.  I keep grit available in the winter.  Stall Dry or Sweet PDZ help keep my coop dry.  I like pine shavings, too.

February 9, 2012
11:10 am
Linda Goble
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Thanks for the help.  I went to Barnes and Noble to get , “Storey's Guideto raising chickens but they didn't have it.  Will try another one tonight. 

CATRAY44 what is PDZ ?  I also live up north in NY and where my husband wants to put it there is trees around but will tarp like you said.  What do you do for water not freezing?

February 9, 2012
11:22 am
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You can buy a water warmer, but that can be costly, now I live in the south where we dont have as bad as winters as what yall do but what I do is every morning, I go out and break the ice then dump HOT water in on top, by the time the chickens come to look at what I am doing it is has already thawed and cooled enough for them to drink.

Welcome to a new crazy world of having chickens! They are funny! Make sure that if you are going to put some in to the freezer not to name them. I cant, I get too attached and the kids are not allowed to name them either. All have their own personalitys and such so it does get a little hard when you have to do that. Also, I have quit allowing mine to free range, my neighborhood dogs had way too much fun with them and I lost quite a few, I think that is more heartbreaking than sending them to freezer camp!

"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living.  The world owes you nothing.  It was here first."  ~Mark Twain
February 9, 2012
11:24 am
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Here is a link for a water heater, not sure how it works because I have never used it! It really isnt as bad as what I thought, on cost.

http://www.tractorsupply.com/f…..er-2167298

"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living.  The world owes you nothing.  It was here first."  ~Mark Twain
February 9, 2012
11:34 am
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I use a heated dog bowl (about $20)–it plugs in and holds plenty of water for winter needs.  In the summer, I use a big plastic waterer.  I used to use the metal waterers, but I found that they rusted badly inside.  The heated base mentioned above is for use with metal waterers,so I opted for the plug-in dog dish for winter (rather than a new metal waterer and the heated base).

February 9, 2012
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This is good!  Keep em coming all. 

I find the best roosts are 2x4s set with the wide side up so they can set on them well and lower their breast feathers down over their feet.  Chickens do perch at night, but they are walking birds, not much of a flying bird.  They like to have their feet mostly flat and the 2x4s allow them to keep their vulnerable feet warm on cold nights.

When they only have round roosts, they tend to have more foot problems too. 

Having the coop in the trees is ok, good in fact, as long as it's not too dark.  It will give them some wind break in the winter, and shade in the summer.  They're generally more vulnerable to getting too hot in the summer than too cold.

Mine is in the trees, but I also have a lot of raccoon problems.  I also have a good dog that HATES raccoons though.  If I accidentally say the word in the house, he's running from door to door to window, trying to get out to look for any.  I send him out on regular patrols and I think he's doing a good job of keeping the miserable varmints away. 

I know people think they're cute, but when you find bits of birds left after a raid, you learn that they're not all that cute after all.

 

You don't need roosters at all to get eggs.  I'm not trying to be a smart alek, but that is such a misconception that I thought it worth saying.  So many people think you need roosters.  Hens are very happy on their own, often having a rooster or roosters, is much more annoying than it's worth.  To both the hens and to you.  They do make good watchbirds against predators though, sounding an alarm against them, and if a predator does come into the yard, they'll usually try to stand them off and give the girls a chance to get away… they usually are the ones that get killed then of course, but that's what they do.

 

I have the heated base and use the metal waterer.  Hauling water in freezing weather is a miserable thing and chickens need water almost more in the winter than the summer to keep them strong and healthy in bad weather.  The one mamaleigh linked to is a good one, there's another one called "little giant" I think it is, which is less expensive, but looks the same, it's not worth the money.  Spend the extra $7 (or so) for the farm innovators one. 

After about 4 years, even the better one eventually did fail but it sees some hard use in poor conditions so I wasn't sorry.  I got one of the cheaper ones after and regretted it!  It didn't even last one winter.

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February 9, 2012
3:50 pm
Linda Goble
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Wow thanks to all of you.  I do have a electric water dish some where around my house. Will have to take extension  cord down to the pen area.

I don't plan on getting a rooster.  I might get meat ones down the road and I am not defiantly name those ones.  I will get different breed for meaters of what I have so I don't have them  killed by accident.

Oh I am just too excited about this.  I was showing my hubby what ones I want to get.  thought of getting 5 but different kinds.  I hope that won't be a problem.  Some are just so darn cute!!!!!chicken

February 9, 2012
4:40 pm
Leah's Mom
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BuckeyeGirl said:

 I have the heated base and use the metal waterer.  Hauling water in freezing weather is a miserable thing and chickens need water almost more in the winter than the summer to keep them strong and healthy in bad weather. 

 

How long does your water last in the metal waterer?  (How often do you have to refill?)

February 9, 2012
5:43 pm
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It lasts a long time in the winter, days, possibly as long as a week!  I just have to slosh the bottom out and let it refill every day, sometimes twice a day thanks to how messy chickens are, but the inner part stays very clean and fresh in the winter.  Of course in the summer, I have to dump it completely out and refill with fresh water about every other day, every day if it gets yucky in the heat but usually every other is fine.

I also keep some of the plastic ones on hand for in the summer to put around the yard outside.  Water is so very important!

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February 9, 2012
7:44 pm
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I do the heated dog dish, too,  and hook up several of the orange extension chords to reach it.  That is my one luxury, lol.  Chickens are so worth it all… they provide, food, pretty lawn ornaments and hilarious entertainment.  I love it when I come out with treats – they hitch up their petticoats and come running and screaming across the yard to be the first to reach me, lol.

February 9, 2012
7:52 pm
Leah's Mom
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Have you  had problems w/rusting inside?

February 9, 2012
9:14 pm
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No rusting in mine, it's 4 years old, my last one lasted at least 9 years, I gave it away to the 4H-er I gave the rest of my chickens to way back when, not sure how long it lasted after that.  It gets kinda slimy in the summer, a good scrub out takes care of that.

Located in N.E. Ohio
February 24, 2012
2:15 pm
Linda Goble
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I just ordered my girls they will be here June 5-7 from Myer hatchery.

They will arrive June 5-7.

Here is a list I bought one each:

Golden Laced Wyandottee

Golden Buff

Dominique

New Hampshire Red

Silver laced Wyandottee

Wel Summer

 

I can't wait until my girls come.  I have plenty of time to get

things ready for them.  WHOO HOO!!!!!!!!!!

February 24, 2012
5:01 pm
Leah's Mom
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I was just at Tractor Supply and they are getting chicks in on Monday.  Anyone have any thoughts regarding buying them that way?  I had pretty much decided I was going to order from Meyer but I'm getting the "itch" to just pick some up…  BEG – your thoughts?  Do you think they'll be okay if I get them the day they deliver?heart

February 24, 2012
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SusanKeaton
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I am making plans for chickens and am wondering if anyone knows of a reputable place in Southern WV or Northern VA to get hatching eggs or baby chicks

February 24, 2012
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laugh  Of course they'll be ok Leah's Mom!  I've seen some badly mislabeled at our TSC, and I think they're always straight run, which means you won't know which are roosters is all.  But if you planned on having roosters, and you are ok if the breed isn't a sure thing, I think they're fine!  I have a hard time resisting the little guys there myself!  chicken chicken chicken

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February 24, 2012
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I, too, have found myself unable to resist the little peppers at TSC.  Mine did great, grew to be healthy birds. But I have ordered from Murray McMurray in Iowa for many years and they are great too.

     My chicken Bible has been Living With Chickens by Jay Rossier.  I refer to it often.

February 24, 2012
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I get mine from TSC almost every year… at least 2 or three chicks.  They do just fine.  They usually have a tub of sex link pullets, one of mixed bantams, another of straight run, then ducks, turkeys, etc.  Mine have been great- very healthy birds.

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