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June 4, 2011
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SarahGrace
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That's sad, Suzanne!  Did you call for them to send replacements?

June 4, 2011
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So, I just walked out to take the hens some fresh water and let them out of the coop.  There's a few bushes and small trees along the way sheltering the view of the yard and I spotted two families of Canadian Geese in the yard.  (we live right on the upper Cuyahoga River, mostly wild, very clean, a few houses along it, no industry to speak of)  Well, they watched me walk to the coop, but I kept my eyes off them and 'minded my own business' and they edged away a bit but didn't rush to the river… I let the hens out and after their treats, they boogied on down to meet the new fowl.  …the geese were cautiously OK with the hens though not friendly.  It was very interesting to watch.  They were a little affronted by the Guineas though!  Now they've all gone their separate ways, Geese are resting in the shade and hens are back to their normal spots, Guineas?  Who knows?  The Guineas are off being wacky!

It was a very interesting situation!

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June 4, 2011
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Has anyone ever had a rooster peck the back of a hen's neck until it is raw and open and bloody? He was merciless! I thought we were gonna lose her. We kicked him out of the coop so she could get better, but the other hens kept at her, too. She is acting better today in that she can walk around, so we let her out and the roo back in in the coop. The poor girl has nothing on her neck. Just behind her eyes and beak is a big gory mess all the way down to her wings, which are also pecked and bloody. Should we just put her down or let her see if she can bounce back? Like I said, once we let her outside, she started kinda walking a bit. Any suggestions for treating her neck?

June 4, 2011
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Not sure how bad it is, but chickens can recover from the most amazingly bad wounds.  You can rinse it with water or better would be saline to be honest, and put Neosporine on it for antibiotic purposes, but NOT NOT NOT the kind with the pain relief in it.  I repeat NO PAIN RELIEF Neosporine.  That is very bad for chickens.

After the Neosporine, it’s best to isolate her for a bit, then, once it seems a little better, you can put ‘Blue Kote’ on it.  Blue Kote is a wound spray or liquid you get at the feed store for wounds on animals.  I recommend the liquid kind with the dauber.  The spray is risky!  It STAINS BADLY and if she shakes her head it will spatter all over you and you will not get it off your skin or clothing!!!!  The dauber gives you a little more control and this stuff does a good job of keeping other chickens from picking at raw skin. 

Use a q-tip for wounds near her eyes, don’t get it in her eyes!!!  Get help to hold her. 

That doesn’t sound like a very good roo to have around… there are too many nice roosters out there to put up with one who is that rough on the girls, if you really need a rooster that is.  Don’t forget that there’s nothing to say that you must have one!  I like having one but I don’t tolerate any that are mean to the hens… or people.

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June 4, 2011
6:26 pm
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Oh my, Suzanne, thats terrible. No, you are not new to chickens, I'm sure you did everything right. What a terrible start ! I hope you try again and let us know your progress.

June 4, 2011
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Thanks, BEG! This is the first the roo has ever been mean that we know of. We've seen the other hens peck at one or another of them, but never him. What we noticed is that the RI Reds pick on the Auracaunas (sp). And this hurt one is an Aura. My husband just said that when he went in to get her earlier he had to kick 4 of the hens off of her. Do they like the blood? Or are they just attacking her because she's weak?

June 4, 2011
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langela,

They will peck her to death if you do not separate her from them.  They peck once there is blood.  Do you have a dog crate or someplace you can separate her until she's all healed?

June 5, 2011
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SarahGrace is right.  They will peck her to death and then they will eat her carcass. Seperate her until she is completly healed.

June 5, 2011
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I'm going to call and see about replacements.  I was too busy the last couple days.  Not sure if they are open today or not.

Clover made me do it.

June 5, 2011
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Thanks, ladies! She is staying outside now, away from the other hens and rooster. She wanted water today but the scabbing on her neck kept her from being able to reach down for it. I was able to pour some into her mouth until she was done drinking. She's getting around pretty good. She let me rinse her neck with water a couple of times and that helped. I can actually see her skull! Poor baby.

June 6, 2011
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Suzanne if you read up on broilers you will see that it is almost amazing that they don't all die.

I ordered 50 and lost 16 (so far)and also ordered 50 laying hens who are all still alive, my neighbor who has done broilers for many years told me that she ordered double the amount needed, due to the high level of deads.

How many did you get?

June 6, 2011
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This morning our hen surprised us with an egg. I guess she got enough water yesterday. I was worried because it is sooo hot and humid here. Because I can't sit and watch her all the time, I just hope she's getting enough food and water when I'm not looking. Laying an egg is a good sign, though.

June 6, 2011
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langela,

Laying an egg is a good sign.  I hope she continues to heal and improve.

Flatlander,

So broilers tend to die enroute more so than layers?

June 6, 2011
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Our little chicks are going on a little field trip today.  wink  We're going to move the brooders out to the porch once it hits 80.  They are growing so fast and want out of their brooders–like now! lol  I think some real sunlight will be good for them.  Hopefully by the end of the week we'll have an extension on the chicken coop that is appropriate for them.

June 6, 2011
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The original order was 25, so now we have 21.

 

I just placed another order (Frying Pan Special, same ones) for another 25.  They discounted 4 chicks off the price for the four that died.  They scolded me a little for not calling sooner, but they did give me the discount for them.  I just had such an out-of-control busy week last week, I couldn't focus on it long enough to call!

 

So hopefully out of 50 total, we will end up with a couple dozen to eat, LOL.  We'll see.  Actually, the remaining 21 are doing well.  So far.  These new ones are supposed to arrive between June 12th and 14th.  Despite delaying a little bit, I did want to hurry up so they will be ready around the same time plus don't want to tie up my chicken house/yard with them for longer than necessary as they will pretty much take it over!  I will probably kick the hens out to make room for them.

Clover made me do it.

June 6, 2011
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I think they are disgusting, beside that they grow so fast, they are NOT nice and don't take care after themselves….they are basically same as turkeys..they taste good they only developed growth when “creating” them and forgot all about behavior and brains.

Hard to grow..but when they pass the first month..you have to butcher them to get rid of them lips-are-sealed

Are you going to butcher yourself? we always do and make it in a fun day, everybody who wants to help can come…lots of coffee and good desserts

This year we have our own chicken plucker instead of borrowing one, picked it up at an auction.

June 6, 2011
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Langela…I sure hope your love and caring will pull her tru…and bring your rooster to our butchering party…I know what to do with himwhip

June 6, 2011
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52 is going to butcher them………  I'll see what I can do to help.  Maybe.  LOL.  I'll be standing by with the frying pan, I think.  When they're all packaged up…. happy-flower

Clover made me do it.

June 6, 2011
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I went and looked at the 'frying pan special' at McMurray and they aren't the fast growing cornish crosses.  They're going to be white leghorns which will grow a bit slower, and be smaller and more flavorful.  I called the company to find out what “Highland 55's” are, and they had no idea… that doesn't speak well for them, but maybe I talked to the wrong person.  She told me that they would be all Leghorn roos.

Also, it's actually difficult to butcher 50 chickens in one day so getting two orders a week or two apart is actually a good thing.  It's best to start with just a few and work out the routine of how things will go, who does what and such.  It's also good to have some extra people around to help!  Squeemish friends can help inside too after all, and for a few few birds to take home, most people will help.  I'm not saying to be offering half of them or anything, you paid for them, used your space and fed them after all, but it is messy hard work so it's worth a few birds in my opinion. 

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June 6, 2011
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Thanks, Flatlander. If the rooster weren't so darn pretty…..hungry We'll just keep an eye on things for a bit and see what happens before putting him on the menu.

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