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Dairy Goats vs Cows for the Home/Family
May 10, 2011
3:51 pm
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I have a couple of pictures that I took of my milking setup that I can post as soon as I remember how to do photobucket again.  My Ginger (Nutmeg's cousin) still likes to dance around a bit and was a kicker at first.  Unfortunately if she kicks while hand milking she will probably still kick with a machine and kick the inflation off (experience talking here).   When we first started (she's a first freshener), I would put her in the stanchion, feed her, and just play with her with one hand while firmly gripping her hind leg and holding it either up in the air (which she hated) or else hold it down so she couldn't kick (she tried hard). We did this while still pregnant.   Eventually I won and she still isn't steady but I can milk her by myself.  It was complicated by the fact that her kid grew so fast that she would stand on three legs while he nursed so she thinks that's how she should be milked too. She'll try to put that one foot anywhere but on the stanchion floor.

 

 She is by far my shortest goat and the belly pail resides underneath the floor of the wooden stanchion I built and the hoses stick up through the floor.   It did take a few times for them to adjust to the machine milking.  We milk inside and I thought the noise would bother them but it was just the fact that it was just “different”. 

 

I'll work on posting pictures.  If you ever have time to see my milking setup in person, you are welcome to come visit and help me milk!  

May 10, 2011
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Here are pictures of my milk stand with Ginger hooked up to the milker.  The vacuum unit is under the stand at the rear and the belly pail is sitting on a cooler under the stand also.  Two boards in the middle of the stand are unattached and I lift them off to remove the pail.  The milk lines run through a space in the boards.  

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Hope these work okay when posted.

May 11, 2011
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That is cool!  Thanks for posting those.  What a great idea to run it up through the boards.  Can you tell me your routine for cleaning out your milker stuff?  I'm wanting to hear how everybody does that.

Clover made me do it.

May 11, 2011
11:24 am
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I'm loving that set-up too.  Really a nice set-up and thanks for the photos!

May 11, 2011
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My cleaning routine is pretty simple.  I am not a germ-a-phobe but I do want things clean since we drink unpasturized milk.  After each doe, I spray the inflations with dairy sanitizer and place the inflations off to the side inside a baggie to keep them clean.  Since we milk indoors and goats are pretty clean, I don't have to worry about a lot of surface dirt getting on stuff.  I do put a clean towel over the pail while milking to keep dirt from sifting down through the milkstand boards. I do use Fiasco Farm's udder wash method.  

Immediately after milking, I rinse everything that comes in contact with milk with cold water to help minimize milkstone.  Then I filter my milk.  Since my pail fits in the sink I wash it and the inflations along with associated hoses manually with hot water and either powdered dairy soap or plain Dawn detergent.  I rinse everything with hot tap water.  Generally I pour a little dairy sanitizer into  the inflations and short hoses that go to the pail and hang them to dry.  I generally just wash the pail and let it air dry.  Maybe once a week I'll I soak the longer hoses that go to the vacuum unit for a few minutes in the sink with an 1/8 cup Clorox to a gallon of water.  I think milk vapors condense and can create bacteria issues in the lines that don't have actual milk in them.  I most always unhook them from the vacuum pump and hang them up to help remove condensation  rather than leave them attached to the machine.

Once every week or so I'll use the acid wash to remove/prevent any milkstone deposits.

Many folks just put the pails in the dishwasher but I never have enough room.

 

I'm sure there are flaws in my method so I'm always looking for other ideas too.

May 11, 2011
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I have to give credit to another Nigerian dairy goat owner who helped me figure out how best to utilize the belly pail with my setup.  I ordered mine with slightly longer hoses (about 1 foot long) which allows me to position it to accomodate those certain goats, who shall remain nameless, that like to move around a bit.  There is enough flex to keep them from pulling the pail off the cooler under the stand.  They're still short enough to clean easily though.

May 11, 2011
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Thank you for sharing your routine!

Clover made me do it.

May 11, 2011
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Where do you buy the acid wash and dairy sanitizer?  Looking for recommendations!

Clover made me do it.

May 11, 2011
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I generally buy my goat stuff from Hoegger Goat Supply http://www.hoeggergoatsupply.com

 

I bought their dairy cleaning kit which contains the dairy soap, sanitizer and acid wash.  I figured that would be the simplest thing until I decide what I really use.  I think there is a pint of acid detergent (makes 21 gallons) 2 pounds of powdered dairy soap  and 1 pound of powdered sanitizer.  I think they will last a good long while but I don't have any big things to wash.  I'm not sure if there are any sources local to Roane County that carry it such as Tractor Supply. 

May 11, 2011
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Thank you!!

Clover made me do it.

May 12, 2011
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In my further quest now for a cart, I found this at Lowes:

http://tinyurl.com/66tjfxr

 

I think that'll work for moving back and forth the milker, pump, and a bucket of feed!

Clover made me do it.

May 12, 2011
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I like that cart!  Thanks for sharing the link.

May 12, 2011
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That's a nice cart, Suzanne!  A farm in Va. where we had a milk share used one like that and also used kid's wagons to haul the milk back and forth. 

May 12, 2011
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That was the best-priced cart in that size and style I could find.  I need something with the weight distributed evenly that will be easy to pull.  My cart is coming home tonight (picked up by 52!) and I ordered the dairy cleaning kit from Hoegger.  I should be ready!  My milking machine will (hopefully) arrive on Saturday!  I hope so as I need the weekend, with help, to get up and going and get stuff put together.

Clover made me do it.

May 12, 2011
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How exciting!  It's great that your cow is used to being machine milked.  Our goats needed to learn how to let their milk down with the machine.  I also had to fiddle with the vacuum pressure so that it worked without causing excessive swelling of teats.  Don't know if that is an issue with your cow and style milker but something to be aware of.  I can explain in more detail what I learned but others used to cows probably know more than I about that than I do. 

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